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Surely the top shots would use the choke that best suits the target, whether cylinder or extra full.

I do suggest as Jame hinted that there's quite a lot of disinformation about what individuals use after all at the top it's about gaining every little edge you can get and mind games are just part of that.

 
Surely the top shots would use the choke that best suits the target, whether cylinder or extra full.

I do suggest as Jame hinted that there's quite a lot of disinformation about what individuals use after all at the top it's about gaining every little edge you can get and mind games are just part of that.
Extra full!?!? For what? Sporting or FITASC I've never needed more than1/2 choke...

 
Surely the top shots would use the choke that best suits the target, whether cylinder or extra full.
 
I do suggest as Jame hinted that there's quite a lot of disinformation about what individuals use after all at the top it's about gaining every little edge you can get and mind games are just part of that.
Top shots don't change chokes.....ever!


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Just a guess, but if you're busy watching for a "shot string" you're prolly gonna miss that "flying target" thing.

just a guess - - YMMV

and lots of peoples' names are known to strangers but that ain't always a good thing maybe  :spiteful:

 
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Extra full!?!? For what? Sporting or FITASC I've never needed more than1/2 choke...
There, highlighted the clue for ya  :lol:   :lol:

Really though people, the thread is about finding out if there are any top shots who habitually use very open chokes on everything, BH is known to be an advocate of correct choke for correct distance but that if anything proves the point you need tight for distance.

As Will has hinted lack of confidence leads many (me) to open up for certain birds but the great don't seem to suffer with the same tight chokes everywhere ! One observation that I can make is that contrary to accepted wisdom the quality of breaks you see with the very tight chokes on close/medium birds is not as convincing as all that, not all the time anyway. I always think it must be because even the great can't centre core such birds with the desert cup size patterns.

 
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'Smoker' earned his nickname because he did shoot a Winchester Trap gun choked 3/4 & Full but in his later life he shot a Beretta DT10 with usually half choke. Brian Hebditch advocates open chokes, never more that 1/4 & 1/2 . Nigel Teague believes 1/4 is suitable for English Sporting .

But many AAA  & AA shots use fixed 3/4 & Full.

A young lad I know shoots a Krieghoff with Muller U3's which I understand are quite tightish chokes, he would be good if he left the drink, girls , and guys? alone before he goes blind !

 
There, highlighted the clue for ya :.: :.:

Really though people, the thread is about finding out if there are any top shots who habitually use very open chokes on everything, BH is known to be an advocate of correct choke for correct distance but that if anything proves the point you need tight for distance.
BH does advocate that, ask him what the tightest choke he uses for sporting/FITASC...1/2!!!

I feel Beretta HP chokes throw a pretty tight pattern, Clever Mirage Grand Italia also pattern pretty tight, I went round most of the British with 1/4 1/4, T1's for closer, T3's for far...stuck in a cylinder for the driven and the rabbit...kills on the long stuff were excellent, the misses would have been misses no matter what choke was in!!!

 
I was told by a well known AAA shooter who has won a title or two that no one ever needs more that 1/2 choke on sporting clays.
It always puzzles me why they'd so emphatically think that, after all most experts shoot 3/4 & Full at Trap targets which lets face it are nowhere near as demanding ballistically as many of the target types that you encounter when shooting ESP.  The second shot at a retreating Trap bird can be quite an ask but it only happens once in a while when you miss with the first barrel whereas in ESP you can easily be tasked with breaking an awkward orientation target such as a physically hard rocket or charnnoodelle at huge distances 5 times in a row; or an edge on dropping clay at big distance ??! 

 
First of all my shooting is average. I'm at a bit of low spot.

Gone down from good. It happens. Will be good again just takes time.

I shoot Bisley 3rd Sunday 100 sporting felt wad.

I use Hull super fast skeet and skeet choke and smoke everything I hit or I miss.

Chip very little.

I don't know if the felt wads make the most of the choke but this combination works for me.

Every where else I use plastic and a bit of choke.

IMO.

 
It always puzzles me why they'd so emphatically think that, after all most experts shoot 3/4 & Full at Trap targets which lets face it are nowhere near as demanding ballistically as many of the target types that you encounter when shooting ESP.  The second shot at a retreating Trap bird can be quite an ask but it only happens once in a while when you miss with the first barrel whereas in ESP you can easily be tasked with breaking an awkward orientation target such as a physically hard rocket or charnnoodelle at huge distances 5 times in a row; or an edge on dropping clay at big distance ??!
But when most good course setters put on a long target (which is quite rare these days) they normally show some face or belly.

 
It's interesting to see at a major championship when a stand is put on with an extreme distant target, just how many of those that can, changing their chokes for something a little tighter. And that includes those advocates of "no more than half choke is ever needed"

The fixed choke guys always seem to have tight chokes. Perhaps to cover all eventualities? Think about it!

 
James I've no idea where in the UK  you'd use extra full for but they are available so I presume there's a use for them, maybe the likes of Dubai or the US.

I'd compare it to a set of screwdrivers, yes you can turn a wood screw with a little electric screwdriver but you'd a lot better off using the right one. Yes you can break skeet with full, but you're better off with skeet/cylinder, don't need to be a shooting god to work that out just plain simple logic.

 
I know the 1/4 and 1/2 Briley chokes I got for my Browning ultra XS were tighter when measured and compared to the equivalent standard Browning chokes I got with the gun.
I checked my Briley chokes last night as well because of this thread, sure enough my 1/2 chokes from Briley were actually the same constriction as 3/4 in normal invector plus chokes.

 

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