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Pretty sure bev is 30 or 32 thats BO so comp must be 36 ish not sure I just pay my money. Anyway its 50 more at least for the two days.

 
Phil

yes perfect sense thank you for the explanation, just to clarify I have no problem with a levie you get that even at county champs etc it just seems a bit ott as you say and may discourage people from getting involved with OT.

With regards to the two selections over two days I thought that idea had been binned and that it was 3x 200 ?

 
Life ain't cheap any more. When I bought my first pint of bitter it was 9d in old money, my local today it's £3.75. That's how it is!

As a comparison I was at the A1 today and saw the entry fee for the Helice selection shoot tomorrow. It's £50 for, I think, 20 targets plus £30 to go into the prize fund. The practice targets and any used for shoot offs are £1.20 each.

 
Life ain't cheap any more. When I bought my first pint of bitter it was 9d in old money, my local today it's £3.75. That's how it is!

As a comparison I was at the A1 today and saw the entry fee for the Helice selection shoot tomorrow. It's £50 for, I think, 20 targets plus £30 to go into the prize fund. The practice targets and any used for shoot offs are £1.20 each.
Flippin eck, £3.75 for bitter? We nearly had a riot a few months back when ours went up to £3.10!!! Maybe you need to find a new boozer Phil. :biggrin:

 
Phil

yes perfect sense thank you for the explanation, just to clarify I have no problem with a levie you get that even at county champs etc it just seems a bit ott as you say and may discourage people from getting involved with OT.

With regards to the two selections over two days I thought that idea had been binned and that it was 3x 200 ?
I think all the recent back stabbing, petty squabbling and general lack of control at selection shoots allied to the price hike won't do much for entries after the first event, which is usually well attended wherever its held.

I assume the 3 x 200 you mention is for the England team, there's no change there. Check the CPSA website under England team and the details are there.

 
Flippin eck, £3.75 for bitter? We nearly had a riot a few months back when ours went up to £3.10!!! Maybe you need to find a new boozer Phil. :biggrin:
That's why when I'm at EYGC I have my fill at Nellies Bar in Beverley. Sam Smith's for £1.88 before Xmas.

 
That's why when I'm at EYGC I have my fill at Nellies Bar in Beverley. Sam Smith's for £1.88 before Xmas.
Now that is cheap mate! East Yorks Gun Club seems to be called Beverley these days. Must be maybe 20 years since I shot up there. Time certainly goes quick as one gets older, my old man told me it would too.

 
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You seen the price of single malt in bars, would cost 100 quid to get pished :)

 
I'm old school and have very fond memories of EYGC back in the days of the late Billy Walker. So that's what it'll remain to me despite what name it might have above the door now.

 
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Pretty sure bev is 30 or 32 thats BO so comp must be 36 ish not sure I just pay my money. Anyway its 50 more at least for the two days.
Bev last sunday was £27 T/ O or £32 comp.

Glad they don't flash finals. Sound expensive if everyone has to chip in an adfitional £20 to pay for a few to shoot

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I was speaking to a BICTSF committee member about this at the weekend and he explained that BICTSF receives no outside funding (at all) and therefore has to rely totally on the income from selection shoots and a limited number of advertising contributions. The fewer selection shoots there are means that the levy has to be increased accordingly to cover the anticipated costs associated with that years international Fitasc administered competitions.

The 'levy' imposed at each selection shoot is required to pay some limited expenses (such as competition entry fee and a couple of rounds of practice) for each shooter at each international competition and a small contribution (couple of hundred pounds) to each shooter at the end of the year to cover some incurred expenses. Otherwise its down to the shooters to be fully self funded!

It is my understanding that committee members receive no expenses for attending meetings (usually at Bisley) and this is all done at the members own expense.

While I for one am most grateful to those that donate their time freely to run BICTSF, surely this whole arrangement is a nonsense and as a national shooting body should surely receive some external funding from one of the numerous government bodies (British Shooting for example although they seem to be interested in the Olympic disciplines only).  It has been noted on another thread that the people selected to represent our sport internationally are not necessarily those of the highest ability but those that have the ability to pay and surely this is wrong. If we (GB) are to succeed at international level surely we want our very best shooters to compete and if that means funding their travel expenses, kit, etc then so be it.

Discuss

DT

 
To Answer the earlier question, DT is £110, two days, 300 targets. I fear that what is stated above is about to happen, and in DT anyway, it will be an exclusive rich mans game, instead of an inclusive talent finder and medal winner.


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An interesting topic.

Speaking from the lower ranks i am glad that a shooter of middle talent but with the ability to come good on the day can enter these selection shoots and if he or indeed she puts in a few good scores can get an England badge. How many sports operate on this open to all system very few i would imagine. Regardless of how much money one has or how much time you have the best will shine through but the last couple of places may be available and with enough practice and commitment one of those places could be yours or mine.

To clarify i am all for the current system furthermore if team places were given purely to the top ranking shooting as a whole would suffer as few of us would bother turning up as the end goal would not be available in other words what would be the point.

 
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In all the Fitasc disciplines....the best who compete get in the teams....unless they do not want to....then....because it is an 'open' set of disciplines...they just go as an individual...!

Anyone can go to win at Fitasc internationals in all of their disciplines. You do not need to be in the team if you do not chose to be.

The fairest of all world disciplines. If you can get yourself there.....you shoot.....and you can win if you are good enough.

ISSF disciplines on the other hand are closed events internationally.....you can only go as a team member....so again the selection procedure.....should...again.....sort out the best.

But shooting is an expensive competition sport.....there may well be talented shots out there who cannot afford to compete....there always have been....but unless they get themselves some sort of support....they may have trouble....and that sadly is life.

 
It would be good if the ISSF world cup events were open then at least we'd be able to travel and shoot at correctly set targets at nice grounds in decent weather. OT would be a lot more popular if it was done this way.

 
Yes it would be great if ISSF disciplines were 'open' for internationals, just like in the UK. Even I might be encourage to go for fun.....at my age... :wink:

 
How would you cope with say 1000 plus entries at a venue in Italy such as Lonato, or another well used range like Granada, Spain with only 5 layouts.

 
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