Powder stack-up issue using Hodgdon High gun

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P40warhawk

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Due to certain components being unavailable I have been forced to come up with a new load for sporting clays use. I am going to be using Winchester AA compression formed hulls with High gun powder and Winchester W209 primers. This will be a 1 ounce load of #7 ½ shot. I tried loading this combination with a Claybuster CB1100-12 wad. The load formula came from Hodgdon’s website. I was not happy with the crimp, as the folds were too deep in the center (see right side photo). I have read that due to the density of the High gun powder this could be an issue. I talked to Claybusters a couple days ago and they are sending me some samples of their CB0178-12 and the CB4100-12 wads. I won’t get these for a couple weeks though. I was wondering if any of you had any experience with this and could recommend a wad that would allow for a correct stack up/crimp using 17.7gr of High gun in a 1 ounce load. I also have available to me Claybuster CB8100-12 wads. In the past I have made several of the following loads with very good stack up/crimp results. Winchester AA compression formed hulls with 18.0gr 700-X powder, W209 CB1100-12 wads. I have seen a couple recommendations of just increasing the powder drop slightly but I would prefer not to change velocities or pressures stated in the load data for the High gun powder. I have also included two pictures showing the crimps on my loads. On the left is samples of the crimps when using 18 grains of 700-X, photo on the right is when using all the same components with 17.7 grains of High gun. I would guess that there is a 4:1 volume difference between the two powders mentioned as High gun is much denser. As a side note all of the loads were done on a manually operated MEC 9000G. I have tried various changes to the crimp at stations 4, 5 and 6 without any improvement. Thanks for any information.
 

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You'd be better off asking this questions on the NSSA discussion boards or trapshooters.com. Few people home load in the UK.
 
Put overpowder cards under the wad or packers under the shot to increase column height to get the correct crimp.
 

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