I have been thinking about this, does anyone do this? I'm not talking about a practice round, I mean when your properly practicing on a specific target over and over. Will practicing with just full chokes in reinforce your correct sight picture and also be more forgiving when you come to competition where you'd open up the chokes for 95% of targets?
Practice/training with full chokes?
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Will Hewland
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I would totally agree that they would be great for practice, especially because you will get more feedback on the kills in terms of hitting the clay smack on or off-centre.
My only bit of advice is 'watch your head' when you open chokes up again for the real shoot. A lot of good work could be undone with thinking that a nice big pattern will be forgiving.
So, technically the answer is yes, but I would prefer to stick in a half choke, then practice AND compete with it..
My only bit of advice is 'watch your head' when you open chokes up again for the real shoot. A lot of good work could be undone with thinking that a nice big pattern will be forgiving.
So, technically the answer is yes, but I would prefer to stick in a half choke, then practice AND compete with it..
Will Hewland
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If you can regulate your head, then fine. Whenever I find a wide spreading cartridge, I miss close stuff with it, because I imagine the big pattern..
I did used to shoot practice sometimes with Hull 21g plas, which pattern very tightly. A bit like shooting full choke.
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Unless you shoot to a very high standard I wouldn't recommend it. It's a confidence breaker if it doesn't work.
here's a thought (and donning my tin hat in advance)... for every few inches the pattern gets ider when you open chokes... if you tighten up does the pattern get a few inches longer... if proportional then mathematically it really doesnt matter outside the density/distribution of pellets argument....
PhilS
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Although I have, as yet, very limited experience on this, I think I am with Clever & Matt on this - compete with what you are used to practicing with.
BTW - ips, how could you possibly be? :wink: :lol:
BTW - ips, how could you possibly be? :wink: :lol:
Will Hewland
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Of course it must get longer; where else would they go, but lets not get into the total pretence that shot string length makes any difference. Passes the clay MUCH too fast to make a difference. Well covered discussion on here previously.
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When I first started I was told by a few more experienced shooters to choke up as well as use cheap ammo for practice and expensive ammo more open choke for comp.
In reality it just screwed me up, I want consistency and no spec of doubt, so I practice with the same choke and ammo I use in a comp. If I hit a bogey target 10 times in a row in practice I know I have the exact same set up in the comp so just do the same thing. If I miss it’s down to me, not the seed of doubt that I can only hit that with brand x carts through super ridiculous stupidly tight chokes that I used in practice.
In reality it just screwed me up, I want consistency and no spec of doubt, so I practice with the same choke and ammo I use in a comp. If I hit a bogey target 10 times in a row in practice I know I have the exact same set up in the comp so just do the same thing. If I miss it’s down to me, not the seed of doubt that I can only hit that with brand x carts through super ridiculous stupidly tight chokes that I used in practice.
No it doesn't, the pellets are simply much closer together the more choke you use. It is often written and assumed by magazine writers and ballistics experts (I'll resist the temptation to put a smiley in as I'm no expert either) that Full elongates the string but in actual tests done stateside, the opposite was found to be the case, as in Cylinder throws the longest (first and last pellets) cloud/string. The reasons are thought to be that with tight chokes the front soldiers protect their mates from air turbulence for longer giving more compactness which is why you get monster breaks at range with them and why good shooters like tight chokes and their feed back.
VicW
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OK,you put your full chokes in and are missing the targets.
Are you missing them because you are over choked or are you missing them because your basic technique is wrong for the birds in question ?
Vic.
Are you missing them because you are over choked or are you missing them because your basic technique is wrong for the birds in question ?
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Practice shoot be preparation for competition and that means a consistent approach. To quote Todd Bender, 'treat practice like competition so that you can shoot competition like practice.'
Michael
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Todd Bender, I can never stop laughing at this guys name. I was a choke changer particularly in practice, I now never change my quarter & half whatever i'm shooting. Since making this decision I have shown a serious improvement.
