Question for ref ?

[Harry1]

This is a genuine question for anyone who shot the world at church ills stand 1 blue run a pair overhead on watching shooters in front of me I thought I had a cunning plan! As I am a lefty I stood in the stand with my back to the bales so basically standing sideways and shot them overhead as crossers. After shooting first two pairs ref stopped me and said I must shoot them in front not overhead to which I replied if that's what you required you should have had a bar over the top over the top of the cage. Needless to say I was rattled by this and made a hash of the rest .

Shooters following me adopted a similar style ref said nothing!

Who is correct?

 

[Bryn12]

OK as a newbie and therefore probably talking sh1te, could it have been where you shot them, i.e. could the debri have been at risk of coming down on others or the shot fall-out have landed near/on people or property? If so taking them a bit later and out in front would probably have been ok.

 

[Angelfire]

Best use of cage I would suggest?.

Phil*

 

[ips]

I don't understand sporting but surely you can shoot the thing anywhere and anyway you want as long as your stood in the right place ?

 

[Hawkeye]

Use the space in the cage to your best advantage .

 

[dashman1]

Agree

 

[Skeet UK]

This is a genuine question for anyone who shot the world at church ills stand 1 blue run a pair overhead on watching shooters in front of me I thought I had a cunning plan! As I am a lefty I stood in the stand with my back to the bales so basically standing sideways and shot them overhead as crossers. After shooting first two pairs ref stopped me and said I must shoot them in front not overhead to which I replied if that's what you required you should have had a bar over the top over the top of the cage. Needless to say I was rattled by this and made a hash of the rest .

Shooters following me adopted a similar style ref said nothing!

Who is correct?

It will almost certainly be that you shot them too close to "overhead" or even behind. They are thinking about fallout of shot and debris.

I believe in FITASC, you can shoot any direction from within the hoop.

 

[Redders]

Surely if there were any concerns about the safety of others, it should not be possible for a shooter to take a shot? A bar is recommended to be fitted to all cages, but is not mandatory. I'd suggest that a padded bar on a cage for overhead clays would help define a consistent arc of fire. Bales or other screening to allow the clay to arrive at a safe point before being able to be shot has also to be considered as the way forward? 

 

[Hamster]

We need an experienced forum member who was there to comment but the very fact that he appears to have allowed following shooters to adopt a similar stance to yours and said nothing seems wrong. It is the job of the organisers to position the stand / bars in such a way as make it impossible to shoot them in a way that would present problems for debris fallout. It is our job to shoot them in the sweet spot if we can.

 

[Madmillie]

100% agree with Hammy. If they don't want you shooting past the vertical, then there should be a bar preventing you from so doing.

 

[Hotshot100]

If a target should be shot in a particular way/position it should be clearly stated on the stand and reiterated by the referee before shooting commences.The referee should have been experienced so should have realised if the shooter had positioned themselves incorrectly.

The referees are there to help as well as to ensure fair play.If the shooter feels that he has been unfairly treated he could always lodge an appeal with the jury.

Why allow 2 pairs to be shot before stopping you? why not just one?

 

[Mike]

Once you're in the cage unless there are specified guidelines I've always shot clays the easiest way for me. A high driven bird is sometimes easier to shoot as a crosser .

I think that the referee needs educating.

 

[Guest]

May be a stupid question but whats to stop you from turning around and shooting a driven target as a overhead as long as your in the confines of the cage. Sureley it's no different to arching back and shooting a driven late with regards to shot fall etc

 

[ips]

Never realised how Complicated this sporting mallarkey is !!!

 

[mx8]

We need an experienced forum member who was there to comment but the very fact that he appears to have allowed following shooters to adopt a similar stance to yours and said nothing seems wrong. It is the job of the organisers to position the stand / bars in such a way as make it impossible to shoot them in a way that would present problems for debris fallout. It is our job to shoot them in the sweet spot if we can.

a right hand and left hand 'sweet spot' may not be in the same place !

 

[Hamster]

a right hand and left hand 'sweet spot' may not be in the same place !

True but either person should be allowed to take them as they wish barring specific instructions or bars placed to prevent certain stances.

 

[chippy]

Never realised how Complicated this sporting mallarkey is !!!

And you trappies think you have a problem when the targets are 0.005° out.

 

[SIMON-B]

Never realised how Complicated this sporting mallarkey is !!!

Don't go there mate it will blow your mind..

" thats when the fight started "

 

[Bramble]

Don't see anything wrong in that...you safely shot the target as presented..... :hunter: