requiem for a trap shooter

[Dog Tyred]

I always assumed that is why game guns (or at least double trigger jobbies) had long thin grips, so you could easily slide your hand back for the second trigger?? Certainly not one finger on each trigger!!!!!!!!!

DT

 

[westley]

If you take a close look at a double trigger gun, the rear trigger is set to the right (or left dependant on the hand of the gun). This is to allow a natural 'flow' of the trigger finger to the rear trigger. This is why just the tip or pad of the trigger finger is used and NOT the first joint. Having said that, I usually pull the rear trigger first (choke barrel) and then move to the front trigger (open barrel). They are easy to use and I use them without thinking. Like I never get caught with the auto safety on a game gun, BUT I have been known to get caught with an auto safe on on a gun used for clays. When using one of my auto's for clays, the safe goes off as soon as the gun leaves my cabinet, when being used for pigeons the safety stays on. It is just a simple matter of knowing your gun and what it is being used for. I cringe when I see game shooters load and push the safe off whilst awaiting a shot. The safe should only be pushed off as the gun is being mounted into the shoulder, by then it is clear of buttons and things that can catch the trigger during gun mount. The double trigger has some major advantages over the single trigger. Some guns and especially older English guns had unreliable single triggers which were also non selective, if one barrel fails on a double trigger gun, you have at least one barrel which will still work, or that was the plan. Remember a lot of old English guns saw service in 'the Colonies' where gunsmithing was not at it's best, so a good old robust double trigger gun was sought after. Westley Richards made (and still do) a 'droplock' to Americanise it, which had removable locks. Should a problem occur a spare lock was fitted and the broken lock sent home for repair. (Perazzi owners note !) When using a double trigger and straight hand stock, the grip is not altered, but it is more natural for the finger to drop back.  Trust me it is less likely to have 'trigger freeze' with a double trigger gun, nor do you have to rely on fully releasing the first trigger to fire the second barrel, just drop the finger back it really is so easy.

 

[Salopian]

Mr. Thornley !

How on Earth can you be led astray by a Southern Alchi Numpty ?

Game Season actually finishes on Monday February 1st.

If any of you Trappies would like to experience a brilliant day out , call me and you can take my place on Monday at Manafon near Welshpool , where my apprentice Peter Croft will show you the ropes.

Double Triggers can actually be operated faster than the cycle time of a boxlock single trigger by an experienced shot and also give you instant choice of choke tube.

Finally there is nothing wrong with falling in love with a dog ,

Especially an old one, I have been out with many and they have without exception been extremely grateful. :lol: :lol:  

 

[jwpzx9r]

Well it appears I tried to do the right thing.... very, very badly but I shoot with my trigger finger very nearly on the first joint so probably why I just could not use the thing. However I was told to use the first finger for the first tube and the second for the second tube... which is nonsense! I am so glad I have a lovely Perazzi with an unbeatable single trigger unit. 

 

[westley]

Well it appears I tried to do the right thing.... very, very badly but I shoot with my trigger finger very nearly on the first joint so probably why I just could not use the thing. However I was told to use the first finger for the first tube and the second for the second tube... which is nonsense! I am so glad I have a lovely Perazzi with an unbeatable single trigger unit.

You missed out the 'unreliable' bit though !    :wink:

 

[Wonko the Sane]

"Westley Richards made (and still do) a 'droplock' to Americanise it, which had removable locks. Should a problem occur a spare lock was fitted and the broken lock sent home for repair. (Perazzi owners note !) "

Really?  Americanise?  I have seen one - maybe the only one ever sold here for all I know.  I have no idea who may have done the first one but the design used by Perazzi and other Italian gun makers is not much like the WR.

AFAIK the great majority of double trigger users here are dedicated posers (certifiable mental defectives) who are constantly in search of double trigger setups to replace perfectly good single triggers and carve pistol grips off of stocks so it "looks right".  But don't get me started on that................

I've shot a few double trigger guns and it was NBD but instantly obvious that they were something I had no use for.

 

[jwpzx9r]

You missed out the 'unreliable' bit though !    :wink:

I never added that because I have not found my gun's trigger unit to "be unreliable". I think if you service your gun properly every year and change the springs you are fine, €75 a pair delivered and guaranteed for a year its a no brainer for me cost less than a days shooting.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

You missed out the 'unreliable' bit though !    :wink:

Not to beat this dead horse too enthusiastically  - I suspect that if any leaf spring trigger was subjected to the use level that most Perazzis enjoy it would ultimately fail.  Not to mention that there are tens of thousands of Perazzis out there and just how many failures do you hear of?

just a thot

 

[westley]

"Westley Richards made (and still do) a 'droplock' to Americanise it, which had removable locks. Should a problem occur a spare lock was fitted and the broken lock sent home for repair. (Perazzi owners note !) "

Really?  Americanise?  I have seen one - maybe the only one ever sold here for all I know.  I have no idea who may have done the first one but the design used by Perazzi and other Italian gun makers is not much like the WR.

AFAIK the great majority of double trigger users here are dedicated posers (certifiable mental defectives) who are constantly in search of double trigger setups to replace perfectly good single triggers and carve pistol grips off of stocks so it "looks right".  But don't get me started on that................

I've shot a few double trigger guns and it was NBD but instantly obvious that they were something I had no use for.

They were,  and still are,  known here as detachable locks, the term 'droplock' was used in America. I am suprised that you have only ever seen one as Westley's have a strong American association and I believe, a shop somewhere over there. Having said that they are not a clayshooters gun but are superb guns, when used for their intended purpose.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

I'll cop instantly to not being a gatherer of esoterica and WR info certainly falls in that area.  I may have fleeting contact with many bits of info but my interests are really limited.  Mostly what it comes down to is whether or not I have any use for something and can I afford it.  Not many fun things meet those criteria hahaha