Sporting shoots. Where - and how did it go?

[Deleted member 230]

I struggled with a few coloured ones at Honesberie.  Honesberie and Westonwood both good shoots but I really should just have stayed in bed today,   

Course setters should be reminded that we are not all 17 with the reaction time of a fighter pilot. And not everyone has a 57 lens set of pilla's in their bag.

Jasper.

 

[Sian]

Course setters should be reminded that we are not all 17 with the reaction time of a fighter pilot. And not everyone has a 57 lens set of pilla's in their bag.

Jasper.

Yes I've only got 9

 

[Deleted member 230]

Yep and you still couldn't see em. ?

 

[Sian]

Yep and you still couldn't see em. ?

True although I was really tired and I also didn't swap lense when I should have.  Still difficult for me in certain light conditions and Sunday was a horrid light.

 

[Hamster]

Yesterday at one particular stand in dense woodland I had to resort to the drastic measure of removing my glasses  . 

 

[Salopian]

Is our sport not getting a tad silly nowadays?

Comments about having to have the reactions and eyesight of a 17 year old fighter pilot.

9 lens set of Pilla's at a cost of circa £1,000 plus .

£11,000 Gun then fly to Italy or Portugal to have a stock made at God knows how much ?

Pay 40p per clay that actually cost 10p , then a week later pay 40p again to shoot at the ones we missed last week , then a week  later shoot at the same unshot rainwashed clays which are now tan rather than orange ?

Then to add insult to injury a chap is allowed to shoot without glasses , clearly against the rules , whilst the rest of us find that Pilla actually are not as good as we were told , because we cannot actually see the clays??????????                :baby:

 

[Hamster]

Is our sport not getting a tad silly nowadays?

Comments about having to have the reactions and eyesight of a 17 year old fighter pilot.

9 lens set of Pilla's at a cost of circa £1,000 plus .

£11,000 Gun then fly to Italy or Portugal to have a stock made at God knows how much ?

Pay 40p per clay that actually cost 10p , then a week later pay 40p again to shoot at the ones we missed last week , then a week  later shoot at the same unshot rainwashed clays which are now tan rather than orange ?

Then to add insult to injury a chap is allowed to shoot without glasses , clearly against the rules , whilst the rest of us find that Pilla actually are not as good as we were told , because we cannot actually see the clays??????????                :baby:

Only one of the shoots I did on Sunday was registered  :wink:  assumptions assumptions. 

I do agree though with the gist of your post, it's all getting a bit silly. Some setters are seemingly trying to compete with one another in seeing who can set the most unhittable target or the least straightable stand. One place I don't often go to but which usually offers a balanced round had two stands with a fast dropping pair with questionable window, that's not clever or testing it's merely robbing those who can't see or move like lightning. 

 

[Deleted member 230]

Westfield got hammered the other day. Too hard they said. Maybe . Some distance and lots of spring but every single clay was perfectly visible.Hard clays yes . But unfair. No. For instance stand 1 had a mega battue . Loads of spring but you could see the thing all the along its flight. Missed first 1 behind killed the rest. Adjustment made  cos you could see it. Black clay , grey sky. Honesberie very similar target . Orange clay .grey sky . Didn't touch one.  Just for me impossible to judge distance and speed.  Felt robbed to be honest. Maybe some purplemaxorangeultrahd pilla's would have helped. Or maybe just a correct colour of clays would make it fair for all.

Jasper.

 

[ips]

Is our sport not getting a tad silly nowadays?

Comments about having to have the reactions and eyesight of a 17 year old fighter pilot.

9 lens set of Pilla's at a cost of circa £1,000 plus .

£11,000 Gun then fly to Italy or Portugal to have a stock made at God knows how much ?

Pay 40p per clay that actually cost 10p , then a week later pay 40p again to shoot at the ones we missed last week , then a week  later shoot at the same unshot rainwashed clays which are now tan rather than orange ?

Then to add insult to injury a chap is allowed to shoot without glasses , clearly against the rules , whilst the rest of us find that Pilla actually are not as good as we were told , because we cannot actually see the clays??????????                :baby:

you know my thoughts on it ?

 

[bisondan]

This is why Gunsite is such an enjoyable shoot, they only use black clays.  

I carry around 5 different coloured lenses now, I've found the peach ones (55) to be the best all rounder, very good at picking out orange and pink against similar backgrounds.  

 

[Deleted member 230]

Just to be clear I'm not honesberie bashing . It's generally a good shoot. I begged Nick to hold reg shoots at this venue when we lost the excellent Newbold , and have attended lots of shoots here.

Jasper.

 

[Will Hewland]

Just to be clear I'm not honesberie bashing . It's generally a good shoot. I begged Nick to hold reg shoots at this venue when we lost the excellent Newbold , and have attended lots of shoots here.

Jasper.

Newbold was superb. Honesberie is also good. Usually tough enough! 

That orange clay against grey sky can be a real issue. I confess to an expensive set of prescription Pilla almost solely for this problem.

 

[Deleted member 230]

This is why Gunsite is such an enjoyable shoot, they only use black clays.  

I carry around 5 different coloured lenses now, I've found the peach ones (55) to be the best all rounder, very good at picking out orange and pink against similar backgrounds.  

When you look at gunsite scores many people assume ( wrongly ) that it's a soft shoot. It is a course of correctly presented clays which gives all classes the opportunity to shoot them . Sean's ability to challenge the AAA and not humiliate the C's is a rare one. Which is why the place is packed out every shoot. 

Jasper. 

 

[Westward]

When you look at gunsite scores many people assume ( wrongly ) that it's a soft shoot. It is a course of correctly presented clays which gives all classes the opportunity to shoot them . Sean's ability to challenge the AAA and not humiliate the C's is a rare one. Which is why the place is packed out every shoot. 

Jasper. 

Agreed. Everyone, no matter how lowly in the classes, comes away from Gunsite with a good feeling. There will be some fairly tough targets and some tricky ones but also some that are not so testing. It's a good mix which lots of shooters enjoy - and of course Sean is usually around and happy to say hello.

 

[Sian]

Agreed. Everyone, no matter how lowly in the classes, comes away from Gunsite with a good feeling. There will be some fairly tough targets and some tricky ones but also some that are not so testing. It's a good mix which lots of shooters enjoy - and of course Sean is usually around and happy to say hello.

I love going to Gunsite especially in the winter when there are less people.  It is so popular that I've missed a few summer ones to avoid the long waits you sometimes get.  Can't be helped it is a very balanced ground in terms of everyone getting to hit something and Sean is a very "present" host making all welcome.

 

[Deleted member 230]

Newbold was superb. Honesberie is also good. Usually tough enough! 

That orange clay against grey sky can be a real issue. I confess to an expensive set of prescription Pilla almost solely for this problem.

So should we all have to go to such lengths. Or should we avoid the grounds which persist with this practice. Black clays is for sky. simples. 

 

[philmoss]

Course setters should be reminded that we are not all 17 with the reaction time of a fighter pilot. And not everyone has a 57 lens set of pilla's in their bag.

Jasper.

A variety of targets should be set to give "something for everybody"....i only use colours against contrasting backgrouns Sian & Donna will confirm this........

Never set a edge on target, never met anyone who goes to a clay shoot to miss them, its all about getting the right balance for the majority !!!

Simples !!!.......see you all Sunday  :smile: :smile:

 

[Sian]

A variety of targets should be set to give "something for everybody"....i only use colours against contrasting backgrouns Sian & Donna will confirm this........

Never set a edge on target, never met anyone who goes to a clay shoot to miss them, its all about getting the right balance for the majority !!!

Simples !!!.......see you all Sunday  :smile: :smile:

Quite true, Mr Moss does not do eyesight tests.

 

[Deleted member 230]

Well while I'm in the mood for sporting bashing. I tell you something else I don't get. Course setters says" I've set this to be won off 95." Why ??.  WTF does that mean . Translation:- my ego is so big I won't allow my course to he straighted.

Why not set it to be won off 100? After all we've paid for a hundred.

Discuss

Jasper.

 

[Clynt]

could be the fact that once that becomes the norm , surely it becomes less of a challenge , and like skeet and DTL the miss one and go home , may well prevail ?? got no problem with any top shooter putting in big score , but if he or she is on 99 and the following pack are all 98's 97s 96s it may well have been  he or she had a bit of luck and the others may have not ....( bouncing rabbit , slow pull, the off line targets , flight line due to gusts of wind etc ) why have we bred a majority of shooters pre fixed on scores rather than enjoying challenging targets ? why does anyone want to be AAA when they are at A class level ??? bemuses me , prizes at most majors favour A-B-C ? me I would want to stay where I was competitive , and attend shoots that kept me there ? no point shooting 90's to fall apart at the bigger prized shoots ??