Stock Drop for Trap Disciplines

[SARZY]

Trying to make the switch from DTL to OT and have been advised that the drop of the stock which is suitable for DTL may not be best for OT, i.e, more rib visible better for OT.

I have read M.Yardley article in which he advises this also but any ideas from experienced OT shooters would be great.

 

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I have tried higher but cannot get on with it.....go straight through and over the top.

Best thing is to try it with your normal set up....and go from there utching the comb up bit by bit until you find 'your' happy place.

This £1 or £2 on the gun when mounted....does not work for me....but then my husband says I am an alien....!!

Also it is nothing that can be done in just one round. You make the change and stick at it for a few weeks....unless it is so obviously going tits up. You yourself know when a kill is a kill (taking out of the equations....trying too hard or a body malfunction) if you are an experienced shot. Just remember that OT keeps going at the point that DTL slows up :wink:

Paaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwllllllllllll . L. O. L.

 

[40UP]

The only other thing is set the comb to parallel. Changing from DTL to OT foot positions are more important - the centre of balance has to be between the feet not standing on one leg as many DTLs do. This is because the amount of body rotation is much greater. When you get it right the back heel won't rise from the ground.

You have a world class OT shooter in Ireland with excellent style, Derek Burnett. Watch him here at the Granada World Cup. Get yourself a beer as the new finals take some time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kT_bO3uTkN8

 

[ips]

It doesn't really matter how high or low as wet will soon adapt. Personally i prefer a flatter shooting gun for faster trap as there is less guess work involved just remember to push through the target job done.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

I'm really too simple minded to have different guns shoot to different POI's.  All my stuff shoots to the same place - where I look.  Like I say, I'm way simple.

But I'm not famous, so ...................

Charlie

 

[SARZY]

Thanks for the advice and for taking the time to reply.

 

[sidney]

Im with IPS. I like my trap guns to mount as flat as a witches tit. Only see a very small amount of rib. Tried higher comb heights in the past but was never consistent. Everyone's different.

 

[ips]

As sidney says everyone is different.

Also agree re consistency or rather lack of it as i consider that a high comb can give you a misguided belief that it will shoot much higher than it actually does and therefore sub consciously shoot under the target which is fine for Dtl but faster trap needs faster swing and definitely requires the shooter to push through the target. IMO too much thought is put into a mm here or a mm there which in reality makes little or no difference in the real world, better IMO to set the gun so it feels comfortable and mounts consistently and naturally your brain will soon adapt to were the gun shoots.

Of course it goes without saying that the eye must be looking straight down the rib.

 

[sidney]

If we want to get technical the lower your hold point/earlier you take the target (not always linked I know) the more the target is climbing, so a higher shooting gun should in theory be more of an advantage. I shoot with a reasonably high gun hold (due to my height from the wheelchair) , so much of the targets vertical acceleration has been lost, so a flatter shooting gun should be slightly more advantageous.

Or I could be talking absolute bollocks. :crazy:

 

[sidney]

Derek Burnett.... to my eyes his gun mount routine is perfect. No grinding or ramming the stock into face or shoulder, no reaching down the comb like you have a giraffes neck, gently into position, nice and relaxed. Very good to watch.

 

[ips]

Sidney

Not bollox, you may have a point. I shoot a reasonably high gun hold too and i tend to look around the barrel with the bead definitely in view (but of course in soft focus not actually looking at it) so as long as i keep my head down gun shoots were i look. I always push through the target.

 

[sidney]

I think that is key to shooting with a 'high gun' style. A really deliberate push or follow through the target to make sure enough gun-speed is generated. Easy to stop and chop.

 

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Chopping.....that's meeeeee.....

Slash ....dash....

I blame it all on Helice........!! :wink:

Hey Sid.......South Wales 2000 tomorrow?????????

If you are going....see you there xx

 

[sidney]

Would love to Nic but baby due in next few days so I'm grounded! have a good one!

 

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Oooooops....good luck matey... xx

 

[sidney]

Oops indeed.... Won't make that mistake again!! .

 

[Dog Tyred]

Derek Burnett.... to my eyes his gun mount routine is perfect. No grinding or ramming the stock into face or shoulder, no reaching down the comb like you have a giraffes neck, gently into position, nice and relaxed. Very good to watch.

Unlike Casey Wallace (USA) !!! Only his mother could love that gun mount routine!!
How the hell did he ever arrive at the conclusion that his right elbow should be up and his left down ??

DT

 

[sidney]

To be fair most of the American trench shooters seem to adopt the same style.Must be to do with their coach. Ugly but seems to be effective. All lateral movement created from the legs hence the bent knees. Not a fan myself, and definitely wouldn't work for me .

 

[sidney]

To be fair most of the American trench shooters seem to adopt the same style.Must be to do with their coach. Ugly but seems to be effective. All lateral movement created from the legs hence the bent knees. Not a fan myself, and definitely wouldn't work for me .