The great fall of China.

[wynno]

Now that oil is trading at around $ 45 a barrel, and commodity prices for ALL basic raw material are now back to  pre 2000 levels (according to a number of newspapers and analysts).

What do you think are the chances of a reduction in the cost of cartridges ?? I can remember buying victory challenger cartridges for £ 96 per thousand in 2000/2001.

Do we have a hope that the manufactures will pass on the savings to ourselves, or will they use the lower prices to increase their profit margin.

 

[Clynt]

Keep your head down Wynno there will be a awful lot of the flying pigs about ?????????????????

 

[Dog Tyred]

Two chances. None and 4uck all !

DT

 

[Will Hewland]

Best hope is no price rise for a while I reckon

 

[Mutley]

Should happen, they have all dropped on the continent, you can walk into Lonato and buy quality makes and top level for the £160 max region, transport is not that expensive as to keep the prices high....

 

[Will Hewland]

As any economist will tell you, deflation is a tricky beast. Manufacturers cant drop prices overnight as the shops holding old stock will suddenly have a loss-maker on their hands. needs to happen slowly if it does..

 

[Rosso]

Not so with petrol. Garages stock pile it (fill their tanks) if they know it's going up. 

Run empty if they know it's going down. Lots of garages around at the moment with pumps closed.

 

[Will Hewland]

Not so with petrol. Garages stock pile it (fill their tanks) if they know it's going up. 

Run empty if they know it's going down. Lots of garages around at the moment with pumps closed.

True, but their stock sells quickly. A cartridge dealer could have months of stock.

 

[Rosso]

If you have 100,000 shells in stock and the price is going up your going to hang onto them sell them at the higher price.

if price is at risk of going down they will not stock them. Very few shops have big stock at the moment. You have to pre- order.

Euro is high meaning imports should be cheaper. Not so with guns, don't see any price reductions. The prices soon went up when Euro was almost equal with sterling a few years ago.

We the consumer are always at the losing end of any variation in pricing strategies be that exchange rates, interest rates, deflation, inflation. 

I just pay if I'm happy to otherwise I would be worrying about things that may never happen.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

If you have 100,000 shells in stock and the price is going up your going to hang onto them sell them at the higher price.

if price is at risk of going down they will not stock them. Very few shops have big stock at the moment. You have to pre- order.

Euro is high meaning imports should be cheaper. Not so with guns, don't see any price reductions. The prices soon went up when Euro was almost equal with sterling a few years ago.

We the consumer are always at the losing end of any variation in pricing strategies be that exchange rates, interest rates, deflation, inflation. 

I just pay if I'm happy to otherwise I would be worrying about things that may never happen.

Don't take it personal, Rosso.  It's common knowledge that all business considers the consumer a moron cash cow that will never revolt and will pay any price for what he thinks he needs and rationalize it whatever way it takes to make it happen.  It's only business.

 

[Traptech]

Would be nice for cartridge prices to fall in line with what they are in Europe...

Maybe the UK cartridge manufacturers haven't agreed on who will go first and reduce their prices yet...Ooops, did I say that out loud *cough*

 

[Les53]

Would be nice for cartridge prices to fall in line with what they are in Europe...

Maybe the UK cartridge manufacturers haven't agreed on who will go first and reduce their prices yet...Ooops, did I say that out loud *cough*

Don't hold your breath!

 

[Doctor Lecter]

we need shells  they sell em    we lose  its supply and demand  !    once a cartridge becomes popular  the price goes up .    I was told its not just lead  but other cartridge components too ,     how much are shells bought for  by the retailers   ? 

 

[Wonko the Sane]

You can call me Mr. Conspiracy cuz I  don't believe that there are ever actual "shortages" of anything.  Markets are incessantly manipulated to maximize or maintain profits.  Consumers are a gormless mob that will accept anything and never come together and protest anything.

Not to mention the government complicity that will ensure that they remain in place.

JMO of course

 

[BTC3]

Prices on the continent may have gone down to stimulate demand - substitute higher profit margin for higher overall volumes - it's happened in SwitzerlandSwitzerland (with all sorts of products) after the revaluation of the Franc against the Euro in January.

Over here, the cost base of the product is too nebulous to determine a "correct" price, so we the consumers don't have much to help us fight back. I would bet we'll see prices actually increase "in line with inflation" before they go down.