Who's used 28g Steels on skeet?

[Hawkeye]

I think it is Express who do a Pro Skeet cartridge which contains 9.5 shot, which obviously means a bit more shot in it.  My mates uses them to some success.

Isn't it Italian 9.5 shot , which is  the same as British 9 shot. 

 

[Skeet UK]

Isn't it Italian 9.5 shot , which is  the same as British 9 shot. 

I did hear this, but...some manufacturers are actually using Italian 9's in their cartridges, so the 9.5's are actually a touch smaller.

The other thing that I read somewhere, is that while some Italian shot sizes are a 1/2 size larger than the English equivalent, not all of them are..so, go figure!

EDIT:  Read it here http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/shotgun-table-shots.php  from a 4 up to a 7.5 is a about a size out, but 8's and 9's are the same.

 

[EdSolomons]

Thats a weight off my mind! Ill sleep tonight

 

[WelshKen]

We were told that steel shot ricocheted of a clay and hit a car a while back, and that's why Mid Wales wont allow them.  

Sounds a bit fishy to me..

 

[Mick Shaw]

I remember shooting 10s a few years ago, can't remember who made them though!

Didn't think they'd kill well, but they did.

Raker 10s

 

[Kentskeet]

We were told that steel shot ricocheted of a clay and hit a car a while back, and that's why Mid Wales wont allow them.  

Sounds a bit fishy to me..

What's all that about? More injuries and damage from falling bits of clay than ricochets from steel pellets! I was told at my local ground that I couldn't use steel " as steel cartridges are louder than lead " ... If that's true I can't say I've ever noticed.

 

[Guerini Guy]

I have used a lot of steel cartridges for Skeet. Not sure about the loudness, but most people feel that they do kick a little bit more, so many skeet shooters including myself now shoot 24g steel for Skeet, and they really do dust 'em up. I know some grounds won't allow them due to alleged ricochets. Personally I have yet to be fully convinced but I think some early media on steel cartridges eluded to the ricochet possibility and, from what I understand, some insurance companies wanted to seriously increase their premiums to ground owners if they allowed steel cartridges to be shot? Not certain but maybe someone with more knowledge can clarify!

Also happy to use 24g lead on most disciplines, including Sporting, but usually shoot 28g lead.

One guy I know did quite a lot of pattern testing which showed that 24g load created a much more even pattern, both with lead and with steel cartridges - go figure.

Who knows eh  -  most people will still shoot what they feel comfortable with - its a personal thing. I know people who shoot a certain cartridge because they like the colour  

 But as for pushing steel down the barrel? . . . . . . no problem providing you are using no tighter than 1/2 choke, in my opinion.

 

[Ray]

Having gone down the 28 gram route am now going down to 24 gram as Guerini Guy say's, they pattern better.

 

[Jan Powell]

There's a reason not many skeet shooters use steel... Most grounds don't allow it.

 

[Ray]

Where did you get that idea, apart from Doveridge & Southern Counties most other grounds that have skeet as an event, do allow steel.

Bisley, Dartford, Lakenheath, Kingsferry, Tadley, Northampton, Nottingham & Orston all allow steel shot. 

 

[Jan Powell]

To be fair to the ground owners it's sometimes not their decision, it's imposed upon them by their insurance companies. In my part of the country there's only one ground that allowed it and that closed a couple of years ago.

 

[Guerini Guy]

and where is your part of the country . . . . . . your profile doesn't mention ?

 

[Jan Powell]

Lincolnshire. Ancholme Valley CTC was the only ground locally that allowed steel shot (although barely anyone used it). That closed in 2010.

 

[Guerini Guy]

That's a real shame. I must admit I would always should lead out of preference, but I don't believe that steel is harmful to modern guns, or at least not up to 1/2 choke.

But I have shot a lot of steel for Skeet and they give the impression that they hit really hard, but in fact they produce a slightly tighter pattern and weight for weight contain MANY more pellets.

Its a shame that grounds did ban them on the ricochet matter  -  as I have stated before on here, I am still not that convinced.

 

[Jan Powell]

It's a bit of a non issue really as most of of those that did use steel shells did so because of price. With the popularity of 24 and now 21g lead loads there's really no need. That's not to mention the other issues with steel but i'll not go there.

 

[clutey]

The club I'm a member of here in N Ireland is steel only, therefore I use a lot of these shells. Yeah, a great cartridge use them most every week, but less kick of the 24g, and they give some lovely breaks. :hunter:    

 

[lksopener]

I was given some bio wad 7.5 Kent shells and they seemed to be as good as any lead I've used.

 

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It's a bit of a non issue really as most of of those that did use steel shells did so because of price. With the popularity of 24 and now 21g lead loads there's really no need. That's not to mention the other issues with steel but i'll not go there.

Neither will I. :smile: .....not through any of my guns.

 

[Ray]

I probably put about 25.000 steel through my gun each year and there has never been an issue with them, don't know what all the

fuss is about...  :fie:  

 Also put about 5,000 through my gauge tubes as well, no problems there either....  ilot:

 

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I probably put about 25.000 steel through my gun each year and there has never been an issue with them, don't know what all the

fuss is about...  :fie:  

 Also put about 5,000 through my gauge tubes as well, no problems there either....  ilot:

Can't use em at Helice :laugh: