Yes, yes, yes ...but what ACTUALLY is the difference...

[schmokinn]

PP, a friend bought a slab of Hull High Pheasant last week for £109 so at £436 a thousand I doubt Hull retailers will come down to £300 a thousand.

Thats a £100 a thou more than the less than cheap JC!

So presumably someone will be selling them for 300 ish.

 

[b725black]

Not really an issue for most of us, the cost of cartridges is pretty much irrelevant if you can afford to shoot driven days.

So if game cartridges are helping to subsidise other cartridges then long may it continue

the last thing to consider is the cost of the cartridges, when your buying a driven day the cartridges you use on the day are probably the smallest expense,

 

[Garwood]

It isn`t the cost ,it`s the stupidity of using massively OTT cartridges on average shoots.....the vast majority of pheasants will be shot at  15 - 30 yds in my experience .

It`s a very small % of people that actually need extreme loads but many are using them,or so it appears from my observations.

 

[ChrisPackham]

It isn`t the cost ,it`s the stupidity of using massively OTT cartridges on average shoots.....the vast majority of pheasants will be shot at  15 - 30 yds in my experience .

It`s a very small % of people that actually need extreme loads but many are using them,or so it appears from my observations.

This! Although 15 yards!?.. I recon most birds are shot between 25 and 40 on our shoot, 30g 6 more than enough, didn’t stop me finding a few empty 36g no4 that others have been using..

 

[chippy]

It isn`t the cost ,it`s the stupidity of using massively OTT cartridges on average shoots.....the vast majority of pheasants will be shot at  15 - 30 yds in my experience .

It`s a very small % of people that actually need extreme loads but many are using them,or so it appears from my observations.

I don't think there is a single person on the Internet that would shoot a pheasant at 30 yards. Iam sure 80 is the norm.

 

[Salopian]

The distance between High & Low House Skeet is about 40 yards .

Being a regular in the Field I haven't seen Gameshots shoot birds that far away. :lol:

 It really is a a joke what The Cartridge manufacturers and Game shots are getting up to .

32 gram  English 6's 2.6mm dia ought to be enough for everyone in soft , low antimony Lead .

Unless of course you really need high antimony , copper coated shot , rolled perfectly spherical on a North Yorkshire lasses thigh . 

 

[ChrisPackham]

The distance between High & Low House Skeet is about 40 yards .

Being a regular in the Field I haven't seen Gameshots shoot birds that far away. :lol:

 It really is a a joke what The Cartridge manufacturers and Game shots are getting up to .

32 gram  English 6's 2.6mm dia ought to be enough for everyone in soft , low antimony Lead .

Unless of course you really need high antimony , copper coated shot , rolled perfectly spherical on a North Yorkshire lasses thigh . 

Left thigh, and only the inside will do..

i hadn’t realised skeet was 40 yrds, seems closer..

 

[Jonny English]

It isn`t the cost ,it`s the stupidity of using massively OTT cartridges on average shoots.....the vast majority of pheasants will be shot at  15 - 30 yds in my experience .

It`s a very small % of people that actually need extreme loads but many are using them,or so it appears from my observations.

Garwood is bang on the money here with 15 to 30 yards, seen some shot at a lot less as well! 

Left thigh, and only the inside will do..

i hadn’t realised skeet was 40 yrds, seems closer..

I think Salopian was referring to the distance from inbetween high to low house as 40 yards, you shoot them at 20 to 25 yards I believe.

As a point of reference to common markers for height:

Standard timber electric pole with 3 wires are approx 10 to 12 yards high

A decent height mature tree can be anything from 20 yards for broad leaf to 30 yards high for a large pine

400 thousand volt lattice electric pylons are 55 yards high

 

[ChrisPackham]

Garwood is bang on the money here with 15 to 30 yards, seen some shot at a lot less as well! 

I think Salopian was referring to the distance from inbetween high to low house as 40 yards, you shoot them at 20 to 25 yards I believe.

As a point of reference to common markers for height:

Standard timber electric pole with 3 wires are approx 10 to 12 yards high

A decent height mature tree can be anything from 20 yards for broad leaf to 30 yards high for a large pine

400 thousand volt lattice electric pylons are 55 yards high

Yep, understand what he meant, I hadn’t realised the houses were that far apart..