Baggers...How, Why, When? Truth or Fiction?

[optima]

how many would have re-entered for a3-4 hour wait?????hope the others had a day pass .

At a guess none once was enough, not knocking the shoot itself though,that was very good

 

[mk38 bob]

I shot it on Sunday and also Monday with there being nothing else on in the area ,Mondays card was a re-entry

 

[mk38 bob]

At a guess none once was enough, not knocking the shoot itself though,that was very good

Got to agree with you there optima ,tWas a great shoot as always

 

[jasper]

I shot it on Sunday and also Monday with there being nothing else on in the area ,Mondays card was a re-entry

ok so the other 82 were ????????

not a downer on keggy . its a pleasure to shoot there , the refs are all sound and john and janet work hard and are good people.

 

[johnyT]

One aspect of human nature that has always fascinated me is honour. So, on the subject of cheating/bagging etc., here's a little morality test.

I personally witnessed this. The guy ahead of me was someone unknown to me but I was alongside the ref and the scorecard showed he was an AA. Half way through the stand he missed the 1st bird then got a no-bird on the report target. On the repeat pair he broke both birds and the ref called "Pair Dead" and scored him the pair. The ref was young and obviously inexperienced so at the 1st opportunity I put on my best fatherly voice and explained the correct procedure.

My honour question therefore is: What would you do if the ref awarded you a bunce target through not knowing the rules?

Happened to me at a recent event - "pair dead" after missing the first bird of a report pair prior to a lengthy breakdown. Imediately corrected the ref after the call and later lost regular side bet by one target at the end - and missed out on some welcome prize money by 1 as well

Point is that as I am a ref and know the rules to not have pointed it out would be cheating.

 

[EdSolomons]

correct Johnny. Good man. Hopefully see you at the JP Friday afternoon.

 

[chubby]

I will look like I am sand Bagging this year, I only went to an easy ground last year and ended up in AAA, but this time I have shot different grounds not so easy

and should really be in A at the next cut off. Now is that a form of bagging? Its not my fault the shoot was too easy and local is it?

 

[Will Hewland]

Eh? getting in to AAA by shooting well at an easy shoot is the opposite thing surely. Less sand-bagging; more helium-bagging?

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[Simster]

I've corrected a ref that gave me an extra kill, it was a registered 100 at Hepworth (not the masters) a couple of years back. A rabbit followed by a crosser I think. Had a couple of no birds on the rabbit half way through and when it finaly came again I missed one. Didn't think anything of it but upon leaving the cage a fellow squad member told me the (young) ref had given me a full house saying "you win some you lose some". I corrected the ref explaining that I had missed the rabbit, (one or two squad members commented that it was nice to see a bit of honesty).

Apart from wanting to do the decent / honest thing, I had been shooting really well and only dropped 2 or 3 targets 5 stands or so in, and wondered if I may pull off my best score and pickup a class (A) win only to have fellow squad members start a rumour of "that cheaing so and so, I saw him miss and he didn't own up etc etc". Needless to say I started dropping targets all over the place so wasn't in the running anyway but I would do the same again.

Another thing I've noticed occasionally, not sandbagging, but shooters, often top ones not finishing a course, weather it be a big event or a normal Sunday reg 100 ESP, you see 41/50 or similar as thier final score when the shoots have been at least 100 targets if not more. I can only assume that the shooter thinks they may not be in with a chance of a win (prize money) and decides to leave to save cartridges and maybe go off to another shoot to see if they fair better.

Whilst it may save a few shells, surely it's a waste of entry fee, even if you just use the remaining targets as practice ?? each to his(or her) own I guess.

I have picked up the odd class win or place over the years but still maintain that I would shoot as much as I do now if there were no prizes at all, I shoot because I love shooting.