Cartridge discipline

[AW13]

I just returned from a good morning shoot at Hawley, first time there for me and I met some very nice people. Shot their 100 sporting comp and for me did quite well.

But - what go to me was some people's complete disregard to others re just opening their gun [all O/U guns] and spraying cartridges behind them not even bothering to catch them and use the bins.  Don't get me wrong most did use the bins but some did not seem to bother.  On a couple of stands I had to clear my footing before I started.

When I shoot my O/U I use the bin and when I shoot the auto I use a magnetic stick to collect all the cartridges, for me just common courtesy and respect to others.

Rant over

 

[evoracer]

That place is notorious for it one of the very reasons I rarely go there drives me nuts!

 

[Santa2512]

Had one today,  youngster & responsible other..

dont even get me started.... 

Unless your shooting a semi, it should be mandatory to pick up your spents.   (even with a semi, you sould be able to retrieve some)

If it was down to me running a shoot, you'd be asked to pay a £10 deposit for cartridges.  count the right amount back in after a shoot, and you get your deposit back...    less would be pro rata off your deposit

Shoot a semi, and it would be a £5 cleaning up fee ..

:santa:

 

[shredder]

Had a guy ejecting over his shoulder the other week near me. Soon stopped when i caught them and threw them at the back of his head a few times.

 

[chippy]

A mate of mine was Reffing at lakenheath years ago when a shooter ejected his shells on the ground he said " could you put them in the bin please" the shooter never even acknowledged him and ejected the next shells on the ground so he said " if you do that again I will shove them so far up your arse that you will be coughing them out" the next ones were caught and put in the bin. Mind you he is 6ft 4" and looks like a rugby player.

 

[PhilS]

A long standing/running issue.....

Don't get me started. .......

 

[Mike L]

There is the same one tw*t down at pilford that does this, I just kick them back at his legs.

 

[chippy]

There is the same one tw*t down at pilford that does this, I just kick them back at his legs.

Is * an A or an I?

 

[Traptech]

The inability of shooters to place spent cartridges into bins provided drives me mental for some reason!!

Maybe it comes from shooting trap disciplines? Get a few hundred shells scattered on the floor and it would be a nightmare! Yes I've missed the odd one as it's ejected, but I make sure I go pick it up at the earliest opportunity.

If we're talking mainly sporting shoots, I feel sorry for some auto shooters who do collect theirs when they have to attempt the brambles and waist high nettles immediately next to the cage!!

But whilst we're talking of cartridges in bins...what is it with these muppets who wave the gun around all over the place turning it upside down to break it and attempt the eject the shells into the bin???

 

[Santa2512]

But whilst we're talking of cartridges in bins...what is it with these muppets who wave the gun around all over the place turning it upside down to break it and attempt the eject the shells into the bin???

​Non ejector model, coupled with an inability to work out how to get a shell out?

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[Mike L]

Is * an A or an I?

I was going for an A ?

 

[Rupert]

it is annoying but there are bigger things to think about, if folk start picking up missed empties you will all be moaning about how long it takes to get round. Focus on the targets and console yourself with catching all your own.

 

[Salopian]

Easy solution for this.

Magnets on each stand for semi auto users .

"Pair lost"  for O/U users who eject and don't put empties in the bin.

Harsh, but fair, litter issue solved within weeks.

 

[AW13]

......., I feel sorry for some auto shooters who do collect theirs when they have to attempt the brambles and waist high nettles immediately next to the cage!!ddd

Don't worry about those who use auto's that why they invented the stick with the magnet on the end, I can pick up about a dozen at a time.  
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[AW13]

Picking up on Salopian's point. One local shoot I enjoy has a rule that each team shoots and helps trap as needed and they do have a stick on each stand and everyone helps each other because even the most diligent O/U shooter can miss the bin as well.

for me it's all about courtesy and respect.

 

[Santa2512]

Easy solution for this.

Magnets on each stand for semi auto users .

"Pair lost"  for O/U users who eject and don't put empties in the bin.

Harsh, but fair, litter issue solved within weeks.

​I totally agree, you beat me to it...  

Its shotgun gun 101, basic operation,  why is it so difficult?

:santa:

 

[Santa2512]

it is annoying but there are bigger things to think about, if folk start picking up missed empties you will all be moaning about how long it takes to get round. Focus on the targets and console yourself with catching all your own.

​I spend a good 10 - 15 mins on each stand after my local shoot, picking up the empty's  if there dropped straight in the bin, it takes no longer than pinging them over your shoulder!

If they cant get 2 empty carts in a bin at 1yd, what hope have they of hitting a bird at 30yds!

:santa:

 

[Rosso]

I put my empties in the bin - but - 

Why have competion guns got ejectors. You can use the ejectors and pick the empties up afterwards and put them in the bin.

Put the bins in front of the shooter - this helps, not to one side or the other. 

If a semi spits shells the other side of the rope or other barrier they cannot be retrieved.

 

[Hamster]

Easy solution for this.

Magnets on each stand for semi auto users .

"Pair lost"  for O/U users who eject and don't put empties in the bin.

Harsh, but fair, litter issue solved within weeks.

​This is just so wrong on so many levels I'm just gonna have to assume it was tongue in cheek. 

In case it wasn't do kindly tell us how we are to go about stopping the stand for several minutes (and the others affected by the line of fire) when several, if not all the empties decide to fall beyond the taped area or in the undergrowth, which semi's are wont to do. 

By far the majority of shooter try their best to catch and bin the empties, myself included but the odd one escapes the hand or the bin nonetheless, pair lost will I assure you solve nothing but create almighty arguments and tense words, perhaps some people just need to chill a tad.

Yours and mine litter is I'm afraid out there in the yonder outasight and on the green and pleasant fields we all love so dearly, oh yes, plenty of it, like tons and tons of spent lead and lorry loads of wads. Be grateful that a five minute scurry round a typical stand gathers up 99% of the hulls, not something you could say about the real litter out there so deep down if anyone is seriously worrying about the litter aspect of this, well, you'll just have to stop shooting.