Eley were getting some cartridges made in France and they were blooming awful. I witnessed an expensive English gun exploding by the forend and it was suspected a stuck wad had caused the damage. The user lost a couple of fingers in the incident. I too got some Gyttorp cartridges and a lot of Sellier and Bellot paper cased cartridges from Edgar Bros. who were in Liverpool at that time. We were still using 1 1/8th ozs loads in old money, or 32 gram in today's money . !