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Salopian

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A friend was telling me he is now paying £240 a thousand for fiasco cartridges ( so called because that's what the quality control seems to be).

Nice to see the sensible Scot ( Tom Young , North Ayrshire Shooting ) has his feet firmly planted on the ground and is offering a very very good cartridge for nearly £60 cheaper per thousand.

As I said to my friend ," If cartridges go up to £500 a thousand , some people will pay it."

 
Still getting my Fiocchi TT1 for £160 per thousand at the moment.

 
How long does it take to update a web site, Last Wednesday I looked on my Gun shops web site at cartridge prices,  and my usual Cartridges were at the price I paid last time so I travelled the 15 miles to the shop to be told the Cartridges had gone up by £29 a thousand I have just looked on their Web page and they are still are priced at the old price, I feel this  is unfair to advertise at a price you do not sell at

 
I spoke to Ian Coleys and they are putting up their prices by 18% due to the falling pound prices.

 
So the current euro/£ exchange rate (1.16) is 11% lower than pre-Brexit rate (1.30) so they put cartridge prices up by 18%. :unsure:  F*cking ridiculous.

The most it (£) went down was 15% and its been gaining value ever since.

Didn't notice prices dropping when the euro/£ rate went up to 1.44 last November.

Think I'll be looking for a cheaper cartridge.

DT

 
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My VIPs have gone up by £15 a tho. What are the cartridge manufacturers going to do when they price the majority of their own customers out of the market?

 
A friend was telling me he is now paying £240 a thousand for fiasco cartridges ( so called because that's what the quality control seems to be).

Nice to see the sensible Scot ( Tom Young , North Ayrshire Shooting ) has his feet firmly planted on the ground and is offering a very very good cartridge for nearly £60 cheaper per thousand.

As I said to my friend ," If cartridges go up to £500 a thousand , some people will pay it."
And it is good to see that an experienced shooter (Darkside) has the gumption and ability to know that cheaper does not automatically mean inferior. Even before the Brexit situation cartridges over here in France were much cheaper than in the UK for example Clever T2 would cost me about  £40 per thousand less than in the UK at NAS... but there are much cheaper cartridges available here at around the €160 to €170 per thousand range and they are very good cartridges, however for some people if the price tag is not suitably high the product is not going to do the job. It is often said you get what you pay for...and for many things that is true... I don't think it is in the case of shotgun cartridges.

 
I did a quick calc so I may be off a bit.  The sorta standard economy price here is around £170/K and that goes up to around  £ 240 for the premiums.  Those are domestics BTW, not imports which are generally higher of course and so do not have so large a following.  I use the economy Federals or Winchesters and have had no complaints but there have been reported instances of problems.  I know this doesn't really translate to your probs with the £ but we're generally in the same boat.

And just for the record - one of the rules of business is soak the mark who has no alternative.  Another is prices never are reduced as much as they're raised.  The corollary being that prices go up more than the situation demands so that the pittance of a reduction will look like some gift.  I'm pretty sure those are universal Laws. 

 
i bought maxams for 132  per 1000 at my local ground they are felt wad which i was a bit unsure about as i have always shot plaswad .  no problems so far i have shot about 300 of them and they are good,i looked at re loading but unless you do 410  or 16/20 g  it dosent seem to be economical. this business of the brexit causing price rises is usually a nload of bo**Ocks  there have been several cases wher a price rise blamed on brexit was retracted when the papers showed that they were made in uk and all ingredients cme from uk!!

cheap cartridges have always worked for me ok  and i have been shooting 52 years. i look at the fps figures and go for something that is similiar to what i am curently using usually 1490 to 1500 ish  makes me happy anyway

 
that's cheap innit ?

if you like em then given your level of experience I would try em if I could get em at that price.

 
I worked for years in a job where results were judged by scientific analysis of data gained in testing... so I always have this in my mind when I hear people talk about what cartridge is better than another. In the case of cartridges I would stake my house on 99% of the shooters on this forum not to be able to produce a statistically significant reason why they should chose to use any cartridge over another regardless of the cost of the cartridge... if they did not know what brand of cartridges they were using at any given time. That is the essence of testing ... a completely open mind. I have entered into my own test although I knew I was changing brand for a cheaper cartridge. I had never used the cartridge before but I just tried to break as many targets as I could per round. I noted my scores over a number of rounds and looked at the data... I could not see any significant difference between the two I had tested... however at €40 per thousand cheaper than my usual Clever cartridges. That buys me 12 rounds of UT and those extra rounds of shooting will do more for not just me but anybody who is looking to improve their own scores.

 
I ain't getting involved in yet another one of these threads. ;)

 
toughened titanium number one grade super dooper fifty quid more than the bog standard stuff OR ...TT1 for short

 
I ain't getting involved in yet another one of these threads. ;)
Ian in a sport where even the very best shooters have a variance in their average score I will take money that not one single person on this forum could produce a set of data that when properly analysed could produce a significant result one cartridge over another provided the are both the same type of wad and a proper test is carried out.

 
john

you can try mate but I ain't biting. ;)

 
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