Falure of Multichoked Guns

[MJJ]

Btw if anybody has a top tip for how to clean the barrel threads (which are a good way back from the muzzle), do let me know. I’m redefining the term awkward-struggle when I do it. You need a finger like E.T.

A chamber/breach brush using a jag wrapped in a microfibre clothe might work ok.

Failing that an inch of the end off the barrels!!!!! 

 

[Clay day]

Does your pinky not reach in will? 

My chokes never need tightening, I graunch them in with the choke key held in a set of 12 inch pipe grips ?

 

[westley]

I would like to bring to everyones attention .

Please check that your multichokes are clean and tightly fitted into your barrels .

Yesterday a friend had the misfortune to destroy the barrels of a £25,000 gun because the bottom barrel choke was very slightly loose .

Gas and /or wad was able to get behind a thinwall choke and open it up like opening a tin can .

Completely ruined barrels .

I'll bet his boxers did NOT come out of it too well either  !

 

[chippy]

I never shoot more than a couple of stands with the same chokes in so never worry about them coming loose 

 

[Hamster]

Btw if anybody has a top tip for how to clean the barrel threads (which are a good way back from the muzzle), do let me know. I’m redefining the term awkward-struggle when I do it. You need a finger like E.T.

I wrap an oily rag around the end of a toothbrush then twist that into the barrel as far down as it will go which is usually well past the threads, the shape of the toothbrush ensures that the rag has to pick up dirt off the threads as it goes, seems to work well enough.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

Thought that idea was too simple will   how about a bronze brush with a bit of kitchen towel wrapped round it that should clean it out?

You have to try it first Will. I have been successful using a piece of Napier cloth wrapped around a bronze brush in the past. It does not tear and the brush gets it into the threads.

I do it that way all the time - works fine for me.

As to aftermarket screw-ins - - - as I've mentioned many times I consider them the work of Satan.  Many years ago, manymany, I had one done by Briley and that was it for me.  I have/had a number of Perazzis and Berettas with factory chokes and have never had a problem of any kind and they have ranged in age from '72 to '93.  Of course they are always properly cleaned and greased so that may contribute to the lack of difficulties.

YMMV of course

 

[jonz]

Ta, but that bit is not the problem. That leaves a big mess of loosened dirt in there. It’s how best to extract that from inside the barrel threads. I push paper soaked in gun cleaner in and rotate it to pick up the muck. Then I fit a spotless choke and remove it several times, cleaning the thread each time until the choke comes out spotless. Yes, I know, I’m a fussy engineer.

Will

would magic bore work on cleaning the threads? 

 

[balltrap]

I never shoot more than a couple of stands with the same chokes in so never worry about them coming loose 

Would your dream job be a plumber  :laugh:

 

[steve d]

Does your pinky not reach in will? My chokes never need tightening, I graunch them in with the choke key held in a set of 12 inch pipe grips [emoji51]

Graunch....what a wonderful word[emoji106]
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[Will Hewland]

Will

would magic bore work on cleaning the threads? 

Wassat?

 

[ChrisPackham]

Shouldn’t this thread read ‘failure of multi choke user’?

My clay gun is extended multi choke and I feel that this isn’t a great idea as it encourages chokes to be finger tight rather than choke key tight.

Maybe it would be better to have fixed chokes and vary the cartridges to give different patterns, it annoying that several new guns  no longer come in fixed choke 

 

[schmokinn]

The only problem i have ever had was with a Muller a total piece crap that i blindly bought into the marketing BS,proved by the constant stream of defective ones and the fact they have now withdrawn from our market.

I am still baffled by the amount of people that will put a structurally substandard part on their gun......guess that's fan boys for you 

 

[jonz]

Wassat?

http://magicbore.co.uk/default.htm

heard only good reports about the ability of these magic bore kits 

too tight to buy one myself but if you know someone who has one could be worth a try on the choke threads 

 

[Westward]

MagicBore is Mike Bartlett's product. He is a member here and there are some threads discussing it. If you see him out and about ask him for a demo.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

My clay gun is extended multi choke and I feel that this isn’t a great idea as it encourages chokes to be finger tight rather than choke key tight.

IIRC Perazzi says don't use the wrench to install, only finger tight.  I've followed that advice since I got the first one.  Never had one come loose and it always requires the wrench to remove them - not much but just that bit more than the fingers are capable of.

I must admit that I have no idea what it is that people do to cause such problems but I have noticed that the "fool proof" aspect of ANYTHING is routinely overcome.

 

[westley]

I have used multi choked guns in one form or another since the Winchester 101 and Beretta 301 auto days, that also included a Breda auto with Cutts and multi choke.  I have NEVER had any issues with their use. The only minor problem was with Teague extended in my Beretta 303. They would back off a couple of turns after every 10 to 15 shots, even when tightened with the tapered key. I simply switched to Briley extended, problem over. My Browning DS chokes are virtually spotless when I remove them, after every 5 or 6 outings, having broken the initial seal with the key they unscrew by hand, so I see no need to try and clean the internal threads. I simply wipe the outside of the choke, coat with a red tacky American gun oil and refit, job done. The same applies to the Briley choke in my Beretta 303, although that does get a touch dirtier, it still unscrews by hand after breaking the initial seal with a tapered choke key. I then carry out the same routine and no problems. I have never had to clean the inside of the barrel or the internal thread, before refitting the choke but that maybe due to the oil that i use. I leave the choke in place when cleaning the barrel and only remove them after 5 or 6 outings.

 

[Simbo]

MagicBore is Mike Bartlett's product. He is a member here and there are some threads discussing it. If you see him out and about ask him for a demo.

Yeah, he's a member but don't expect to see him on the forum. He tried hard to launch via the forum but got the usual hammering! Done OK on the circuit with Cheryl though  :clover:

 

[Garwood]

Don`t see a problem with factory multi choked guns,they`re beefed up accordingly but seen some thinwall aftermarkets in s/s etc that looked too thin !

That has to lower the margin for error.

 

[Westward]

Yeah, he's a member but don't expect to see him on the forum. He tried hard to launch via the forum but got the usual hammering! Done OK on the circuit with Cheryl though  :clover:

I've chatted to Mike a few times because he used to live relatively locally and I still see Mike and Cheryl from time to time. Pleased he's made AA.

 

[danq]

i have an air compressor and a blow gun choke out clean thtreads soak the internal threads with cleaning fluid,blow out with blow gun 80 psi  insert clean choke with copperslip on threads then scrub barrels as usual

voila (sit back and wait for jokes)