Gun Mount

[Baus]

I have been shooting for several years causally, but being a mediocre shot I wanted to get better so took a lesson.  The lesson was very short and simple.  He moved where I mounted the gun and said "stare at the clay, your brain will know what to do, just stare at it."  Sounded a little too simple but I went from shooting 10/25 on a round of Skeet to 20/25 that afternoon, then 87/100 on sporting clays two weeks later.  I have only gotten out a couple times in the past four months, and my score has slipped a bit, but still significantly better than I used to shoot.

Here is the question.  The gun mount "feels" wrong.  It's on my collarbone, not in my shoulder pocket.  It just feels too far in.  I am sore on my collarbone after shooting Tuesday night and it just seems like the wrong place to be feeling soreness.  When I say collarbone I mean way inside on my chest, not out near my shoulder.  I have spent some time on google and in a book I have but really finding a hard time finding an illisturation of where the mount should hit on the shoulder.

Am I mounting wrong or just not used to feeling it?

 

[525kev]

Yep Gun mount is the work of the Devil.

One day i'm gonna get someone to show me where it is then paint a circle in indelible ink at that spot cause it keeps moving dependant on who you ask

Oh and welcome to the House of Nutters

 

[Luke725]

I have been shooting for several years causally, but being a mediocre shot I wanted to get better so took a lesson.  The lesson was very short and simple.  He moved where I mounted the gun and said "stare at the clay, your brain will know what to do, just stare at it."  Sounded a little too simple but I went from shooting 10/25 on a round of Skeet to 20/25 that afternoon, then 87/100 on sporting clays two weeks later.  I have only gotten out a couple times in the past four months, and my score has slipped a bit, but still significantly better than I used to shoot.

Here is the question.  The gun mount "feels" wrong.  It's on my collarbone, not in my shoulder pocket.  It just feels too far in.  I am sore on my collarbone after shooting Tuesday night and it just seems like the wrong place to be feeling soreness.  When I say collarbone I mean way inside on my chest, not out near my shoulder.  I have spent some time on google and in a book I have but really finding a hard time finding an illisturation of where the mount should hit on the shoulder.

Am I mounting wrong or just not used to feeling it?

Some one with better knockledge than me on here will anwser you better but to me your gun fit is totally wrong ,you should be able to mount the gun consiistanly with out the gun being moved a round in your shoulder if it feels uncomfartable must be wrong gun fit ,if i was you i would see some one like ed solomons on here  ( if not to faraway ) an get a second opionion on it 

 

[chippy]

Maybe the cast on your gun was wrong and he moved your gun mount to compensate.

 

[Hamster]

Are we talking club instructor or recognisable coach ? 

 

[Salopian]

Place the fingers of your front hand onto the opposite shoulder in the vicinity of where you would normally mount your buttstock, then move your right hand (if you are a righthanded shooter ) over towards your left shoulder. As you are doing this you will feel with tips of your left fingers a depression form in your right shoulder.

This is the shoulder pocket, where normal people mount their gun , although deformed people such as George Digweed  and Ed Solomons may be different and mount out towards their bicep or shoulder joint.

I would think the gentleman who looked at you was more concerned with making sure that your eye was looking centrally down the the rib.

 

[Baus]

Are we talking club instructor or recognisable coach ? 

Just a club instructor

Some one with better knockledge than me on here will anwser you better but to me your gun fit is totally wrong ,you should be able to mount the gun consiistanly with out the gun being moved a round in your shoulder if it feels uncomfartable must be wrong gun fit ,if i was you i would see some one like ed solomons on here  ( if not to faraway ) an get a second opionion on it 

It's not actually uncomfortable, doesn't move around on my shoulder it's always in the same place, it just seems like I am mounting in a place different then where I should.  Sadly I live on a different continent then Ed Solomons

Place the fingers of your front hand onto the opposite shoulder in the vicinity of where you would normally mount your buttstock, then move your right hand (if you are a righthanded shooter ) over towards your left shoulder. As you are doing this you will feel with tips of your left fingers a depression form in your right shoulder.

This is the shoulder pocket, where normal people mount their gun , although deformed people such as George Digweed  and Ed Solomons may be different and mount out towards their bicep or shoulder joint.

I would think the gentleman who looked at you was more concerned with making sure that your eye was looking centrally down the the rib.

When doing as you described I am mounting a good 2-3 inches inside of where the shoulder crease forms.  You are correct I do believe the person giving the lesson was getting my eye down the rib.  It's also possible that I am overcompensating from where he recommended I mount and moving it even further inside.

 

[chippy]

.  Sadly I live on a different continent then Ed Solomons

Don't worry about that iam fairly sure he doesn't charge for traveling.

And its probably better to have an hour a week rather than an all day lesson you will take it in much easier.

 

[525kev]

Place the fingers of your front hand onto the opposite shoulder in the vicinity of where you would normally mount your buttstock, then move your right hand (if you are a righthanded shooter ) over towards your left shoulder. As you are doing this you will feel with tips of your left fingers a depression form in your right shoulder.

This is the shoulder pocket, where normal people mount their gun , although deformed people such as George Digweed  and Ed Solomons may be different and mount out towards their bicep or shoulder joint.

Well that's been the best bit of advise i've had so far

I now know exactly where my pocket is

 

[Salopian]

"  Sadly I live on a different continent then Ed Solomons "

Wow, some people have all the luck !  How I wish that I did .

But being positive , maybe when He and his mate the Lyon King have made their fortunes , they will send me to Australia for good. :lol: :lol:

 

[Baus]

After posting here and another site I believe the issue is the instructor I went to noticed my eye was too far left when I mounted in the shoulder pocket, so simply moved the gun mount left to compensate.  Perhaps the gun is not fit properly.  Additionally it's fully possibly that he move my mount a "little" bit left, and next time I went out shooting I overcompensated and moved it a "lot" bit left.  I am going to get to the pattern board soon and try with the proper mount and see what happens, and look into a gun fitting after that

 

[Salopian]

Stand in front of a large mirror , close your eyes , mount gun into what you feel comfortable with as regard your shoulder position.

Open eyes and look into the mirror , your eye should be central down the rib and pupil should be clearly visible.

If you are having to position gun as much inward as you are saying you do to align with rib your gun needs a drastic alteration to its cast .

But without being there and seeing what you are actually doing it is really impossible to gunfit on line .

 

[EdSolomons]

Salopian is spot on id say. 

Sounds like you were being told to fit the gun rather than getting the gun to fit you.

 

[Skeet UK]

What continent then...King Ed does get about a bit.

Do they sell adjustable butt pads, on your continent?

http://www.recoilsystems.com/adjustablepad.php