bostonmick
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i dont have any to keep,i intend shooting all mine :smile:
the law is X amount of explosive which includes that of the primer. Cant remember how many kg but I know it equates to approx 10k 12 bore cartridges and that is the accepted amount by the HSE for home storage without a licence. I know this as fact because my brother in law is a HSE explosive inspector and I have discussed it with him and read the regs. Before anyone asks (again) yes people have been convicted for storing more than this but I don't know the details of the cases.cheers :wink:
Now i have heard powder/propellant mentioned is it actually relevant to that or the amount or the amount of explosive in the primer?
So although the propellant is not to my understanding an explosive it is counted as such?the law is X amount of explosive which includes that of the primer. Cant remember how many kg but I know it equates to approx 10k 12 bore cartridges and that is the accepted amount by the HSE for home storage without a licence. I know this as fact because my brother in law is a HSE explosive inspector and I have discussed it with him and read the regs. Before anyone asks (again) yes people have been convicted for storing more than this but I don't know the details of the cases.
as an aside the HSE have more rights of entry than the police.
Ireland . Yup its pretty bad alright.Where about' s in this world do you live in,with these draconian rules.
Crazy i probably have 750 loose ones chucked in a box from when i finished shooting,sort them out once a year or so!Ireland . Yup its pretty bad alright.
Also to make it worse any used cartridges in your possession count towards your limit
Ya its ridiculous . Most cops dont even know the laws around it themselves and a few have even said . Not to worry about it and work away . But thats all well and good to say until you mee a cop that wants to follow the law to the letter and then you end up loseing your licence .Crazy i probably have 750 loose ones chucked in a box from when i finished shooting,sort them out once a year or so!
i would be having to go to the Gunshop every other week!
It is crazy - yet when we visited last year to shoot in a competition we took more than that in the car with us. The ferry company were happy for us to transport 1000 on the trip. We declared to the PSNI how many we were bringing and why.Ya its ridiculous. After months of pleading. Dozens of phone calls they eventually upped it to 750
Im in the republic of ireland . You mention PSNI so i assume you were in nortgern ireland .Different laws . Northern ireland would have similar laws to england id imagineIt is crazy - yet when we visited last year to shoot in a competition we took more than that in the car with us. The ferry company were happy for us to transport 1000 on the trip. We declared to the PSNI how many we were bringing and why.
It was a hassle as they could not grasp why we needed 20g, 28g and .410 when the gun was 12g - took quite a bit of explaining / photo's and descriptions about tube sets and NSSA skeet but they eventually approved it all.
I have flown 250 on flights before now (250 x .410 happen to weigh 5kg which is most airlines limit) + numerous empty hulls.
As for what i do here...
I buy once a year mostly - group bulk buy with friends - normally i am right up on the limit. Circa 8500-9000 at the beginning of the year which i run down to practically nothing by October time - then re-order in the spring for the next year.
This year i did some small top ups over winter as shot a bit of sporting which i would not normally do.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/explosives/licensing/storage/So although the propellant is not to my understanding an explosive it is counted as such?
Also out of interest how much lead styphnate is in each primer?
No NI are way more strict than we are they cannot keep anywhere near the numbers we can - up until last year (around June) you even needed a special temporary licence from the PSNI and you had to state the same info you would for a ATF if you were travelling to NI - in fact i think it was more hassle to go to NI than USA.Im in the republic of ireland . You mention PSNI so i assume you were in nortgern ireland .Different laws . Northern ireland would have similar laws to england id imagine
Of course, if you have a couple of shotguns, you can apply for 750 or 1000 on each of them, and keep the total number granted.Ya its ridiculous . Most cops dont even know the laws around it themselves and a few have even said . Not to worry about it and work away . But thats all well and good to say until you mee a cop that wants to follow the law to the letter and then you end up loseing your licence .
It used to be worse my limit was 300 and after i sent in a letter to ask to have it upped to 2000 they upped it to 350 .haha i was going every week sometimes twice a week for ammo
The police here have no appreciation for how much u can use clay shooting and most havent a clue about firearms in general.
After months of pleading. Dozens of phone calls they eventually upped it to 750 .
Now i end up going to buy ammo every 2 weeks or so .
The guy that runs my local clay pigeon club is only allowed to store 5000 and thats a business
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sorry for delay i missed your postHi Davy,
Where on the licence does it state that there is a 1000 round limit?
No sign of it on either the Grant letter or the Licence that I have. Just indicates the amount you can have for that particular gun.
Is it stated in the panel "Additional Conditions"? Because that's blank on all my shotgun licenses.
I think you can stack the numbers, but I'll have to clarify that with someone.
I am going by these guys... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61504527
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