mid bead

[El Spavo]

Or a black sticker? Or just... Leave it alone?

 

[Luke_(NL)]

Where’s the fun in that?

 

[El Spavo]

Where’s the fun in that?

It won't add 5 to your usual score, like every other snake oil, miracle cure, immortality water, holy Grail fad that disappears down a rabbit hole with a shooter desperately diving after it.

 

[Luke_(NL)]

It won't add 5 to your usual score, like every other snake oil, miracle cure, immortality water, holy Grail fad that disappears down a rabbit hole with a shooter desperately diving after it.

Nor do I think that having a mid-bead subtracts 5 from your score, but I'm not a fan of mid beads for sporting guns. I do tinker with my guns every once in a while, but I keep my expectations low 

 

[Jonny English]

ok but it leaves a hole obviously ,   that irritates me ,  is there anything  i can do ?   or just crack on  ?     

Get a tube of black silicon sealant from a builders merchant. Right colour, keep the water out and would come out if it wants to go back in again. The mid bead on a browning is a tapered push fit, so a grub screw won't go in.

 

[k80ben]

Or you use it as a handy tool when you start shooting, then just ignore it cos you're actually looking at the clay? My 525 has a mid bead and even though I'm a distinctly average shot, I can't remember once actually noticing the mid bead when confronted with a live target cos I'm looking waaaay beyond it.

If anything, it's useful for me to practice just once or twice when I'm sporadically dry mounting to check I'm seeing the same sight every time and I'm not getting lazy.

If you don't see it, which you shouldn't when you're shooting unless there's something seriously wrong with your game, then I don't see the issue with it being there or not, and therefore any need to remove it for the sake of it. Unless you're literally just starting out, removing it just because sounds like one of those golden bits of advice to do it when it's actually a bit irrelevant. Just saying. 

Not seeing the bead is the ultimate mistake ! Bead abs barrel awareness is a major part of modern day shooting. 
 

Simply staring at the clay is awful advice. Some shots I would look at the barrel bead more than the clay 

 

[Will Hewland]

Not seeing the bead is the ultimate mistake ! Bead abs barrel awareness is a major part of modern day shooting. 
 

Simply staring at the clay is awful advice. Some shots I would look at the barrel bead more than the clay 

Interesting point Ben. Yesterday, I had a good shoot at College Farm, but took myself out of the running by missing two pretty basic slow aways, that curled and dropped. I just attacked too hard. (In my defence, the report target was a screaming away high edge-on midi that totally took my focus before I walked in to the stand). When I think of it now, if I had actually been looking more solidly at the muzzle it would likely have slowed me up and made me more deliberate on the first bird. 

 

[JoostB]

Not seeing the bead is the ultimate mistake ! Bead abs barrel awareness is a major part of modern day shooting. 
 

Simply staring at the clay is awful advice. Some shots I would look at the barrel bead more than the clay 

I do that too, specially on far away crossers, going away targets, or slow targets. But I don't recall that whilst having barrel awareness it is never focussed on the mid bead in my case.

 

[El Spavo]

Not seeing the bead is the ultimate mistake ! Bead abs barrel awareness is a major part of modern day shooting. 
 

Simply staring at the clay is awful advice. Some shots I would look at the barrel bead more than the clay 

Didn't say stare at the clay as advice, just said that I don't look directly at the mid bead cos I, like most people I would have thought, would like to think there's a big difference in appreciation between staring solely at the barrel and barrel awareness and therefore I personally try to balance my view with the majority on the clay. Equally, I don't stare blankly at the clay with no appreciation of where my gun is pointing either, which I believe is your assumption as to what I was alluding to?

End of the day, I don't think really about it too much, I just enjoy shooting for what it is and certainly don't live & breathe it, but I know I don't stare at the mid bead and therefore it doesn't put me off. Don't have an interest in being the best of the best of the best cos I've seen people get really twatty about missing a single target and I dont want to be part of that club. I'm in my 40's so not interested in chasing unobtainable goals, I'm a realist, but obviously plenty of people out there are so kudos to them if they're doing right whatever I'm doing wrong.

But I don't recall that whilst having barrel awareness it is never focussed on the mid bead in my case.

What he said too.

 

[JDL]

I started with, but now prefer without.
It only distracred me.

 

[TRINITY]

Interesting topic this. As a relative late novice to the sport I am still finding my way . However I have noticed if I concentrate solely on the bird ,I often miss. In ball sports some people would refer to this as 'ball watching' . If I concentrate on the end of the barrel I usually miss quite a few. If I can get a bit of both then, bingo! 

 

[k80ben]

Interesting topic this. As a relative late novice to the sport I am still finding my way . However I have noticed if I concentrate solely on the bird ,I often miss. In ball sports some people would refer to this as 'ball watching' . If I concentrate on the end of the barrel I usually miss quite a few. If I can get a bit of both then, bingo! 

Catching a ball and shooting like comparing apples and oranges mate

 

[TRINITY]

Catching a ball and shooting like comparing apples and oranges mate

Yes I know, it was just 'loosely worded'  example how when i concentrate too much on the clay everything else can freeze. 

 

[ColinD]

A very good cheap book with a lot of sound information, I know it won't beat good coaching lessons, is Breaking clays by Chris Batha

 

[Les53]

There should be nothing that distracts you from the target itself. 
 

 

[Wonko the Sane]

mox nix

 

[Doctor Lecter]

mox nix

es ist wichtig fur einige !!

 

[Wonko the Sane]

es ist wichtig fur einige !!

nicht ich

 

[westley]

I don't know if my gun has a mid bead or not  ??

Apples and Oranges have one thing in common.......................you can make a drink from either  !          

 

[balltrap]

You just piped me to the post on that one westley !