Santa2512
Well-known member
Just come back from a couple of straw bailers today, and i'm not a happy chappie, so i'm going to have a little rant!
Noise
Now i know i can be a curmudgeonly old git, but it really does make me wonder whether some shooters actually give two figs about noise and its effects
Noise is as we know a contentious issue, and more often than not, local councils appear to take the side of the plaintiff, when a concern is raised .
However it would appear from the last couple of straw bailers ive been too, that some people dont give a toss, and if anything want to make as much noise as possibe.
10:00 am on the dot - An opening salvo of a 21 cannon salute.
What is it?, why do people need to use 32g game loads for clays at best 20 /30 yards away?? and for the next hour and a
half you get a cacophony of pops and cracks interspersed with the boom of the 32g load being used. Is it an apendage thing? you know, big cartridge / gun to make up for small appendage?
For the record i shoot 21g loads
Prehaps if they stood in the car park with there ear defenders off, they might realise how loud they sound.
Now it may be the crack from the smaller loads is worse at greater distances, but if i lived near to a shoot, i know which
one would wake me up!
Etiquette,
As there dont appear to hard and fast rules governing etiquette, it never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who
just dont get what there actions convey to other people.
Closed guns out of the slip,
Now i was tought that the correct way to handle an OU / SS gun, was to break it in the slip, and withdraw it that way. Likewise when you return a gun to the slip it should be broken, and closed in the slip. Obvioulsy the exception to the rule is the semi auto, but that should be flagged etc when empty.
The amount of people ive seen recently who remove the gun unbroken like a semi auto , then when its out and moving
around will break it.. and on its return insist on closing it to place it horizontally into the slip from the small end, so they
dont have to open the slip more than they have to.
Crowding,
Why do people insist on crowding round the stand when your trying to shoot. you can see perfectly well 5, 10, 20 yards
back, so why the need to look over my shoulder as im setting up the shot. would you be happy if i stood that close to you
while your trying to have a pee?? And then they dont move when your trying to leave the stand. ?? let me get out, and you can get in simples
Alcohol
Possibly one of my biggest anti topics, what is it with people who come to a shoot and are swigging from a hip flask the whole way round.? Yes it may be a social / tradition thing, but driving a car under the influence is heavily restricted, due to the known risks, So shouldnt common sense apply when your carrying a gun?. you may not be driving, but your in charge of a lethal weapon. ( BTW i left the stand i was in line for when saw this. i came back later when the stand was empty)
I dont mind if you want a beer after the shoot, hell i'd prolly join you, but not when your actually shooting
Picking up cartridges.
Why do some people think that there above eveyone else, and steadfastly refuse to pick up there spent cartridges...
The amount of middle aged blokes who break the gun and just dump there spent cartridges on the deck,
FFS it takes all of two seconds to break the gun and remove the cases by hand before depositing them in the bin.
I bet you'd soon kick off if people just dumped rubbish on your carpet when they came to visit you, rather than using a bin.
Horseplay
I didnt think people were that stupid, but they clearly are. I wont go into details, but I and my nipper who were shooting today both saw examples of it from a group of shooters.
Words fail me. the consequences just dont bear thinking about,
And breathe
Yup some people may think i'm being a petty old git, but what does a few manners cost.
:santa:
Noise
Now i know i can be a curmudgeonly old git, but it really does make me wonder whether some shooters actually give two figs about noise and its effects
Noise is as we know a contentious issue, and more often than not, local councils appear to take the side of the plaintiff, when a concern is raised .
However it would appear from the last couple of straw bailers ive been too, that some people dont give a toss, and if anything want to make as much noise as possibe.
10:00 am on the dot - An opening salvo of a 21 cannon salute.
What is it?, why do people need to use 32g game loads for clays at best 20 /30 yards away?? and for the next hour and a
half you get a cacophony of pops and cracks interspersed with the boom of the 32g load being used. Is it an apendage thing? you know, big cartridge / gun to make up for small appendage?
For the record i shoot 21g loads
Prehaps if they stood in the car park with there ear defenders off, they might realise how loud they sound.
Now it may be the crack from the smaller loads is worse at greater distances, but if i lived near to a shoot, i know which
one would wake me up!
Etiquette,
As there dont appear to hard and fast rules governing etiquette, it never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who
just dont get what there actions convey to other people.
Closed guns out of the slip,
Now i was tought that the correct way to handle an OU / SS gun, was to break it in the slip, and withdraw it that way. Likewise when you return a gun to the slip it should be broken, and closed in the slip. Obvioulsy the exception to the rule is the semi auto, but that should be flagged etc when empty.
The amount of people ive seen recently who remove the gun unbroken like a semi auto , then when its out and moving
around will break it.. and on its return insist on closing it to place it horizontally into the slip from the small end, so they
dont have to open the slip more than they have to.
Crowding,
Why do people insist on crowding round the stand when your trying to shoot. you can see perfectly well 5, 10, 20 yards
back, so why the need to look over my shoulder as im setting up the shot. would you be happy if i stood that close to you
while your trying to have a pee?? And then they dont move when your trying to leave the stand. ?? let me get out, and you can get in
simplesAlcohol
Possibly one of my biggest anti topics, what is it with people who come to a shoot and are swigging from a hip flask the whole way round.? Yes it may be a social / tradition thing, but driving a car under the influence is heavily restricted, due to the known risks, So shouldnt common sense apply when your carrying a gun?. you may not be driving, but your in charge of a lethal weapon. ( BTW i left the stand i was in line for when saw this. i came back later when the stand was empty)
I dont mind if you want a beer after the shoot, hell i'd prolly join you, but not when your actually shooting
Picking up cartridges.
Why do some people think that there above eveyone else, and steadfastly refuse to pick up there spent cartridges...
The amount of middle aged blokes who break the gun and just dump there spent cartridges on the deck,
FFS it takes all of two seconds to break the gun and remove the cases by hand before depositing them in the bin.
I bet you'd soon kick off if people just dumped rubbish on your carpet when they came to visit you, rather than using a bin.
Horseplay
I didnt think people were that stupid, but they clearly are. I wont go into details, but I and my nipper who were shooting today both saw examples of it from a group of shooters.
Words fail me. the consequences just dont bear thinking about,
And breathe
Yup some people may think i'm being a petty old git, but what does a few manners cost.
:santa:
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