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Thought so. Was it adopted by the SCTA as well? I'm sure it was on their web site last year!?!?
(Viewed it anyway as it is an important (to me) question)
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don't know for sure but i would imagine scta would have adopted it also but prob worth checking. One thing to bear in mind though, if you shoot 28 in c and then get in b you could possibly then be stuffed until you get used to 24 by which time you stuff your averages and up back in c and the whole cycle starts again. But if you use 28 just for the odd shoot with no intention of getting serious which is what the rule is for then that's fine.
don't know for sure but i would imagine scta would have adopted it also but prob worth checking. One thing to bear in mind though, if you shoot 28 in c and then get in b you could possibly then be stuffed until you get used to 24 by which time you stuff your averages and up back in c and the whole cycle starts again. But if you use 28 just for the odd shoot with no intention of getting serious which is what the rule is for then that's fine.
Got a message of a screenshot of the cpsa news page from 13/01/2012 ..."unclassified shooters who end up with a score B class or above will not be eligible to win"
SCTA are checking out if they adopted the rule or not.
Nothing else on other than DTL or OT today, turned up with my usual bag of 28g sporting loads, said, I've never shot this before, I've only got 28g shells, if I can shoot it with these I will give it a bash, I'm sure I read the rules were changed to allow C, D and U/C class to shoot with 28's, eh, aye thing your right, B/O Then please...Shot 20 with 28g, scored for next line, as they finished one asked "who's shooting with 28g?" "Me, I'm unclassified, never shot registered OT before..." "That's cheating!!!" Then a big ugly scene erupted from my accuser. "You better admit what you've done to the Assosiation!!!" Ect, ect. Woah!!! Hang on, I'm not trying to cheat anyone!! I just wanted to try OT...hang on and I'll go get 24g shells. Ran out of the OT layout, down to the shop, grabbed a slab of 24g 7's, ran back up to the OT layout, tipped out the 28g shells into my bag, stuck a box of 24's in each pocket, walked onto peg 4, loaded the gun and shot a 13. Came off, went a walk, got a card, shot some sporting stands and a line of double rise on my own. Came back once I'd settled a bit and shot 19 20 in the last two lines, if anything, breaks were better with the 24's.
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James next time use 24g I bet you still score well, it was not the carts that made the 20 just you put the stuff in the right bit of the sky! I know there will be many situations but I have shot 24 and 28 together in practice and could not tell the difference, I am just not a good enough shooter to do that. My normal high score ranges from 20-23 for UT and about 16-19 for OT you have beaten my best on the first time out! 
you should pack in that hedge monkey malarkey and start trap shooting!
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I wish I had you stamina I shot a couple of tours of UT in about an hour on Saturday and to be honest that was enough I knew that I would have just gone down hill after that. I find that if I shoot too many tours in a short time my scores suffer really badly!
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I wish I had you stamina I shot a couple of tours of UT in about an hour on Saturday and to be honest that was enough I knew that I would have just gone down hill after that. I find that if I shoot too many tours in a short time my scores suffer really badly!
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I have/had nothing against shooting 24g other than I've got about 3k 28g shells bought and paid for and not a single 24g. A £27 B/O round of OT ended up costing me another £50 for a slab of 24g loads, a really pissed off afternoon after being accused of cheating in front of a dozen or more people by someone who was a sporting shooter who knows I'm a sporting shooter who'd never shot OT before and several phone calls to let the Assosiation know what had happened, check if I had broken any rules, apologise if I had (the Assosiation guys can't remeber off the top of their head if they adopted the cpsa amendments or not, they remember discussing it, they will check and get back to me). If there had been a registered sporting or FITASC shoot in Scotland today I wouldn't have been shooting ANY trap dicipline!!! It's little wonder so few shoot OT, there are some real Divas!!!James next time use 24g I bet you still score well, it was not the carts that made the 20 just you put the stuff in the right bit of the sky! I know there will be many situations but I have shot 24 and 28 together in practice and could not tell the difference, I am just not a good enough shooter to do that. My normal high score ranges from 20-23 for UT and about 16-19 for OT you have beaten my best on the first time out!
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What can i say, 28 rule was introduced for exactly this scenario were a shooter wants to have a go and use his usual loads. Ridiculous to have to endure what you did even if there was no rule since you were bo what difference does it make to anyone. As for breaks with 24 i have said same thing many times far better than 28 presumably because 24 are more centre weighted. Anyway i hope you enjoyed it despite the miserable beggers and hope they didn't put you off shooting ot again.
Ps out of interest is your 11 a trap or sporter
What can i say, 28 rule was introduced for exactly this scenario were a shooter wants to have a go and use his usual loads. Ridiculous to have to endure what you did even if there was no rule since you were bo what difference does it make to anyone. As for breaks with 24 i have said same thing many times far better than 28 presumably because 24 are more centre weighted. Anyway i hope you enjoyed it despite the miserable beggers and hope they didn't put you off shooting ot again.
Ps out of interest is your 11 a trap or sporter
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Don't remember that post. So how you liking it now after a year or so. I note there are a few ot shooters doing very very well with them lately and a couple of world cup type shooters using them so i am genuinely interested in your view as to what if anything makes them better than the 10.
Hope that came across the way i intended.
Hope that came across the way i intended.
Ian I think that a very well known shooter won a huge major using the DT11 did he not? I think what we have to say here is that most mainline shotguns in the right hands stand a chance but there must be a huge portion of the shooter in the make up of the combination that makes the win?
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Giovanni Pellielo world trap champion 2013 DT11
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Giovanni Pellielo world trap champion 2013 DT11
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To be honest it should never have been an issue. I knew you were unclassified and I wouldn't have bothered with the fact you were shooting 28g. If it was someone who was classified and shot a lot of OT then that would be different but I don't see the harm in people who are giving it a go, only have 28g(since they shoot maybe DTL, ABT or sporting) and using them.
Yes Andrew, that sounds perfectly reasonable! If we don't let people try it out without having to buy slabs of 24grm shells, well OT is going to remain as the minority game that it's always been!
Yes indeed John!!!! And now Aaron Heading is using one too, after 14 years with Gamba!
Called the Assosiation last night, told them what had happened, got confirmation back from them that although they had talked about adopting the cpsa amendment to allow OT to be shot with 28g by C D U/C classes, they never did adopt it as an amendment. They said they would just treat it as a mistake and scrap the 72/100 from the classifications. No further action nessesary. Shoot 24g at OT if I ever try it again in future.
Thanks Andrew, someone MADE it an issue. My fault, I got it wrong. Won't happen again.
Thanks Andrew, someone MADE it an issue. My fault, I got it wrong. Won't happen again.
Ian I've used mine a few times now as you know, very nice gun, but to me anyway I really cannot say that it is any better than the DT10 that I used to have. In fact I don't even shoot it any better or worse than my antique 3800!!!! Yes recoil is a bit lower than my 3800 but I can't really say that the 11 recoils a lot less than my 10 used to. As for the breaks, yes they are good, but hand on heart I cannot say that they are lots better than any other gun I've shot over the years! The DT10 as far as I'm concerned was always going to be a hard act to follow! Why don't you try out DT11, you may like it mate!
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