Perazzi... tips...

[Emmsy]

As regards the soldering Perazzi use the traditional silver solder for precisely that reason i.e. the solder melts at a relatively low temperature so there is no distortion to the barrels. The mass producers often use zinc solder which has a much higher melting point and so the soldering is done in an oven which can lead to distortion.

I'm sorry you had these problems with your Perazzi. I've had a number over the years and never had any problems. I can't comment on the relative standards of build quality of different manufacturers but have twice visited the Perazzi factory and been impressed with the attention to detail. Everything is in house. They are a small manufacturer - every day just 6 guns and 1 set of barrels are finished so total production is around 1,700/1,800 guns a year.

agree with what you say, i just think they could probably do with a service company over here to help keep them tip top condition. i think if that was in place i maybe wouldnt have shifted brands.

 

[Darkside]

Beretta DT11 is like my wife's Audi A3 2.0dt 170b.h.p. plain but stylish, solid/heavy but well balanced, easy to drive with plenty of power.........both of which can still crash through driver error!!!

 

[MX8man]

Beretta DT11 is like my wife's Audi A3 2.0dt 170b.h.p. plain but stylish, solid/heavy but well balanced, easy to drive with plenty of power.........both of which can still crash through driver error!!!

And through the use of the wrong fuel - in your case fibre wad cartridges.

 

[Hamster]

So what's a Zoli?

Bristol with a Alfa price tag.

 

[Emmsy]

Beretta DT11 is like my wife's Audi A3

the A3 is just a rebadged golf

a DT10 would be a golf and a EELL would be the A3, exactly the same just more expensive

 

[Emmsy]

Bristol with a Alfa price tag.

a Bristol VR ?

 

[Hamster]

The only badly made Berettas are the expensive ones.

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You know Clever, for someone who is relatively new to this you do know what you're talking about.

 

[Hamster]

With Krieghoff I considered looks as well as build quality.

That's why I said Volvo 240 :.: :.: .

 

[Hamster]

Beretta is defo something from the Toyota mould, Land Bruiser or Hi Lux, the old 682 is a 1972 Merc diesel 180/90.

 

[MX8man]

You know Clever, for someone who is relatively new to this you do know what you're talking about.

I think I'd disagree with this. SO6 upwards are well made guns - just take them apart and look at the quality of finish of the locks and the rest of the action.

Where they suffer is the stock. This isn't bolted to the action as in the case of the boxlocks. The stock is held to the action by the pins - 4 either side on the more recent models, 3 either side on the older models - which go through the locks. If you repeatedly slam the gun shut the stock may well develop a crack around the grip.

 

[Will Hewland]

It is SO5's that I have heard and seen problems with. Ribs coming loose, ejector issues and more.

Cheers

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[Emmsy]

I think I'd disagree with this. SO6 upwards are well made guns - just take them apart and look at the quality of finish of the locks and the rest of the action.

Where they suffer is the stock. This isn't bolted to the action as in the case of the boxlocks. The stock is held to the action by the pins - 4 either side on the more recent models, 3 either side on the older models - which go through the locks. If you repeatedly slam the gun shut the stock may well develop a crack around the grip.

any idea on what makes the perazzi stocks crack? is it poor inletting, thin grip, wide receiver around the trigger mechanism or what? i havent suffered myself but iknow of one guy who is now on his 3rd perazzi stock and ive seen plenty of others that have cracked

 

[Will Hewland]

My MX12 cracked on the radius where the trigger section seats. Just behind the trigger area, underneath, if that makes sense. It was always going to crack there, a total stress raising area with sharp corners. I got it glued, then took a small file and rounded off the opposite side. It hasn't cracked. If I had a new stock, I could make this mod and it would likely never crack. Takes two minutes.

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[David B.]

My Beretta Semi Auto is a Rolls Royce so you are all peasants as far as Im concenred!!!!

 

[David B.]

concerned!! that should read !

 

[Hamster]

It prolly is actually, they used to break a lot before BMW took over :.: . Someone asked about Beemers, Miroku's are a bit like a used 5 series; they always seem to end up with a rough sort parking them on the council estate. :.: :.: One acquires a glued on spoiler, the other some blue duct tape for comb. :.:

 

[David B.]

How perceptive you are Hammy!!

 

[EdSolomons]

I think I'd disagree with this. SO6 upwards are well made guns - just take them apart and look at the quality of finish of the locks and the rest of the action.

Where they suffer is the stock. This isn't bolted to the action as in the case of the boxlocks. The stock is held to the action by the pins - 4 either side on the more recent models, 3 either side on the older models - which go through the locks. If you repeatedly slam the gun shut the stock may well develop a crack around the grip.

A friend of mine had a pair of S06s and they were frankly appalling. They spent more time back with beretta than they did with him. As said before ribs falling off was a near weekly problem. Beretta told him he must be shooting them too much! After much messing about he got rid of them and got a pair of engraved DT10s instead and I don't think he has had any issues.

 

[MX8man]

any idea on what makes the perazzi stocks crack? is it poor inletting, thin grip, wide receiver around the trigger mechanism or what? i havent suffered myself but iknow of one guy who is now on his 3rd perazzi stock and ive seen plenty of others that have cracked

The wood to metal finish is very good - hardly surprising given that the stocks are machined on a CNC machine. However, the bolt which holds the stock to the action does stretch, particularly when new. If you allow any play to develop the stock will crack at the bottom by the trigger guard. So check the tightness of the bolt regularly.

 

[Will Hewland]

Yes, that is the crack point. Mine went with a tight bolt in 8000 shots. It needs a radius, job done..