Rabbit no birds

[bostonmick]

I dont expect a no bird call on any sporting target unless it is wildly off line I look at it as being a simulation of live shooting and how many wild animals fly or run to a perfect course.

 

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I don't expect a no bird for anything wind affected...that is life and we have to shoot them in trap ...however they come out.

In my opinion a no bird should be for broken clays....whether they break as they come off the trap or when they hit a stone or a twig or branch of a bush or tree (each of these being the cheats favourites ) and 'that' is when you need your good refs... Just saying..!

:wink:

 

[tiptop]

A bouncing rabbit is no different to a clay in the air that skips up, or is pushed down due to a gust of wind.

Surely ref you wouldn't call a no bird for a clay that skips on the breeze.

 

[Peter.W-T]

Exactly the point I was making unless the clay breaks shoot what is presented. In my opinion a bouncing rabbit is just one of those things

 

[maddmatt]

There was a push a few years ago to have rabbits excluded from competitions, especially fitasc ones, by some of our friends across the channel. Their reasoning was, due to the variations in the trajectory of a rabbit running along the ground and the fact some bounce and some don't, they felt this was unfair to all competitors.

I think if a target is blown in to the ground and that point is significantly shorter then the target is usually flying it must be called a no bird, simples...

 

[kevin]

The more they bounce, the more fun it makes to shoot them.

 

[Claybuster]

Shooting rabbit clays for many years and never had one called as 'no bird '. They're always bouncing and popping up. Very difficult to read this target at times, so I take the shot to the best of my ability. This is the sport we choose don't forget !

 

[ips]

This is one of the reasons I don't shoot Sporting (as well as the mud), there's no equity in competition. One guy gets a target that rolls straight and true, another gets a target that jumps 2 feet, slows and veers to the left.

If 'no birds' aren't going to be given then it makes a mockery of the competition.

i am with you on this one, many reasons not to shoot game practice i mean sporting. Here are just some reasons not to ... ahem

1 . way too much walking

2 . way to much mud

3 . targets going sideways and even towards you what's that about.

4 . keep hearing stories about cheating

5 . Multi chokes

6 . autos

7 . camouflage clothing

8 . targets that are called something but they don't look anything like it, such as rabbit, they are not round or orange they are brown ish and fluffy.

Just er saying

 

[Les53]

8 . targets that are called something but they don't look anything like it, such as rabbit, they are not round or orange they are brown ish and fluffy.

They are often flat and red.........................once a Landrover has run em over!!!!! Bit like badgers I guess. :laugh:

 

[ips]

Ha, that's true never thought of it like that les

 

[Les53]

Ha, that's true never thought of it like that les

I went to watch a straw bale shoot a few weeks ago, some of the birds were incomers. Some of us, including whoever was shooting at the time, had to get out the way of bits of flying clay on a regular basis, not my idea of fun mate!

 

[no.1topdog]

A bouncing rabbit is no different to a clay in the air that skips up, or is pushed down due to a gust of wind.

Surely ref you wouldn't call a no bird for a clay that skips on the breeze.

For one that was blown off it's intended course by a significant amount rendering it unshootable or unsafe, Yes I would!

Of course, if I ever Ref for you I'll make an exception when you miss this one and call it lost. But for the rest of your squad, if it happens again, I'll let them take the bird again???

No! Of course I wouldn't. I try to be as fair as possible to ALL the shooters that pass through my stand. Consistency for all is the ONLY fair way to proceed.

I am this way because I have been the victim of inaccurate marking in the past. I never, ever, argued with a ref and relied on the way they saw it, whichever way the result fell.

I like to think I am as Sporting as the next Man, and enjoy the little quirks that a sporting target can go through, but there has to be limits for overall fairness. :biggrin:

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

All rabbits should be banned boring boring targets and inconsistent most people just dust them anyway pointless and not really much of a resemblance of a real rabbit IMO, If the rabbit jumps as you pull the trigger and I am sure most have suffered this it could mean the difference between winning and losing a few bucks.

The trajectory has changed which should mean a no bird I hasten to add even the best sporting shooter on the planet feels they are an unfair target. icknose:

 

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[bostonmick]

throw a clay out of any trap anyhow and I am happy to shoot at it.it would be boring if all were uniform.

 

[EdSolomons]

If I wanted to shoot the exact same stuff week in week out I'd shoot a round of trap. Then hang myself...

 

[Macc Ladd]

This is one of the reasons I don't shoot Sporting (as well as the mud), there's no equity in competition. One guy gets a target that rolls straight and true, another gets a target that jumps 2 feet, slows and veers to the left.

If 'no birds' aren't going to be given then it makes a mockery of the competition.

the more sporting you shoot, good and bad luck usually even themselves out!!!?

 

[Macc Ladd]

If I wanted to shoot the exact same stuff week in week out I'd shoot a round of trap. Then hang myself...

+1

 

[Macc Ladd]

All rabbits should be banned boring boring targets and inconsistent most people just dust them anyway pointless and not really much of a resemblance of a real rabbit IMO, If the rabbit jumps as you pull the trigger and I am sure most have suffered this it could mean the difference between winning and losing a few bucks.

The trajectory has changed which should mean a no bird I hasten to add even the best sporting shooter on the planet feels they are an unfair target. icknose:

you know the score before you take the stand, you watch the chap on front of you see the clay has the odd bounce In a certain place, and deal with it!!

 

[Macc Ladd]

throw a clay out of any trap anyhow and I am happy to shoot at it.it would be boring if all were uniform.

+1