Recoil Pads (from Blaser F3)

[BenW]

Is the Isis a spring or hydraulic Ed?

 

[Will Hewland]

Ed, can you define 'better'?

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[EdSolomons]

Think it's a combo of spring and something else. Don't ask me I'm not a doctor.

The danuser is very heavy, which may or may not be annissue for you. They can also lock up unless you mount dead square on- if shooting high birds or stuff well below your feet they lock up pretty quick.

The top rod on mine wore out very quickly- I went through 3 separate units over time, and I don't do a great volume so that wasn't it.

I also feel the Isis shoots a lot smoother, but that could be subjective.

Give one a go an see how you find it.

 

[Will Hewland]

That's the problem, I need to hack an expensive stock up and spend £300 quid to find out! Love to try a gun with one on..

Thanks for advice, I am due to speak to Isis tmrw

 

[EdSolomons]

Send Dave my regards.

 

[optima]

Is the Isis a spring or hydraulic Ed?

Hydraulic,though it has 2 springs in it which push it back out, i fitted one on my DT 10 made it smoother than any other gon i,ve tried,can,t coment on any other makes as i ain,t tried them

 

[Hamster]

I had my 682e wood stock fitted with an Isis and it is very good but personally I prefer the Danuser on my Zoli by a small margin, it seems to absorb more recoil quite simply. The Isis does look neater but to me that is irrelevant as a butchered stock is a butchered stock.

I also had a Gracoil fitted to a custom Teknys but that was not in the league of the other two. The PFS is MoFo best of all in recoil reduction/adjustability/cheek management etc (because the gun free-recoils beneath your face) but the grip shape is unforgiving. It either fits or doesn't and the metal work running through it means you can't necessarily improve things by custom woodwork such as available in the states.

If it were me I would order a stage 2 SofTouch from the USA and be done. These work on the same principle as the PFS in that they allow a gun fitted with an adjustable comb to free-recoil whilst the comb bit stays in place. If your gun is standard at present, then get it fitted with an adjustable comb at the same time. It's often assumed that reducers work by dissipating force away from the shoulder but that is not enough. If you watch really sloooooow motion films of machine gun fire you'll notice the barrel warp and bend under stress, watch slow motion footage of a shooters head and you'll notice some pretty violent shaking exerted to the head, like being gentle punched 200 times on a Sunday morning . This is fatigue that most people aren't even aware exists.

The SofTouch is pneumatically adjustable I believe and all the reading I've done on the internet seems to suggest that personal preferences and oddities aside, they are the business. I would also fit the comb with a 3 or 5mm sheet of Sorbothane cover (most of mine including the PFS have these), once you get used to the firing cycle and comfort you'll wish you had protected yourself much sooner.

You can borrow my 682e stock if you can get hold of an action and of course shoot the Zoli when I get it back.

 

[BenW]

I used to have the danuser and my dads had them on all of his guns for about 12 years and not had any problems.

Haven't tried the Isis though.

 

[TobyM]

Just had a look at PFS and SoftTouch but too pricey for me. ISIS it is then. I'll go for the full trap version on the trap gun although I'm loathed to have a decent stock butchered, my back ache takes priority.

 

[Emmsy]

i had a pfs but sadly didnt like it, too wibbly wobbly and you felt very disconnected with the gun. tried the solomons isis and can vouch that felt very smooth, it would be the route i would take

 

[Will Hewland]

I have bitten the bullet and ordered an Isis 2, with 14mm recoil pad. It is being sent to Isis' preferred gunsmith in Luton, awaiting my stock to follow it. Might be a few weeks as I need to find a gap in the shooting schedule.

My choice was down to a) it is a UK product and supplier, who is very helpful B) a lot of good folk on here recommend it and c) it is less visually intrusive on a nice gun. Oh and d) is probably the cheapest solution too; although will be over £300 with fitting.

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[EdSolomons]

malcom will do a great job of fitting too.

 

[TobyM]

Ed, does Malcolm work for ISIS? I may be up that way next month

 

[Will Hewland]

Malcolm Jenkins is independent but does a lot for Isis.

 

[TobyM]

Thanks Will. Where is he based?

 

[Will Hewland]

Flip Tobi, just look at my post about 3 up. )

I have his full details if needed..

 

[Mike]

Have any of you tried the Browning Reactar pad which fits in a shoulder pocket of your skeet vest? I find it very good at absorbing recoil for not a lot of money, plus your gun has no need to be altered in any way.

 

[Will Hewland]

I recently bought a musto vest that came with an insert. It felt really bad in terms of gun mount in the shoulder, compromising the feel of locating the gun properly. Like picking your nose with a boxing glove on.. I didnt get as far as firing the gun.

I have stuck it in my wife's browning vest and await her comments.. Seems like a crude thing to help newbies, no more, but I may be wrong.. Good value though.

 

[Nicky T]

I recently bought a musto vest that came with an insert. It felt really bad in terms of gun mount in the shoulder, compromising the feel of locating the gun properly. Like picking your nose with a boxing glove on.. I didnt get as far as firing the gun.

I have stuck it in my wife's browning vest and await her comments.. Seems like a crude thing to help newbies, no more, but I may be wrong.. Good value though.

Was it one of the orange D30 inserts? I have one in my Musto vest, but have recently acquired another vest that doesn't have a pocket to put an insert in so am curious to try shooting without one.

 

[Will Hewland]

I think it was. Looks like a rubbery dishcloth, about 5 mm thick