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Oh come on Clever give me the really long answer I am genuinely interested. When you are as new to a sport as I am you crave opinion, well I do anyway! I have been shooting game for quite a number of years and never really thought about POI and patterns until I started shooting inanimate clay discs... which by the way are totally inedible whatever way you try to cook them :biggrin:  ! True story.. When I was working there was this really lovely girl that worked with me  and one day in the office we were discussing organising a days clay pigeon shooting for the people in the office. Over hearing the discussion up pipes Dawn awe that cruel what harm have clay pigeons done to you lot! And yes she was serious, that got some laughs!
Was she blonde? :)

Mate, my trap knowledge is insufficient for me to pitch a theory to you. Certainly with sporting, where more leeed is often involved, the very popular concencus is never to FOCUS on the rib or any part of the gun. You will be aware of where it is pointing of course.

Recently, some guys I know (who are not great shots) were at a local shoot. One was complaining that if only he had a better gun fit he would be crunching everything up. A very experienced shot took the gun and hit the problem targets from the hip with the gun upside down. Barrel awareness..

 
Clever,

 I think you are highlighting what I am saying really. If you know where the gun is pointing in theory all you need to do is point it to the part of the sky you need to hit the target, thing is try as I might to accept this theory this is not what I do because if I did I would not be using the bead of my gun as my reference point! I am looking at the clay but it is only when I see that the bead is where I think I need it to be I actually squeeze the trigger but what I will say is that I have found that I have scored better than most when I don't over think my shots, so there is defo some degree of instinct in there but I still think it is related to my positioning of my bead under the clay. Its almost to me like a sight picture, my brain sends the message to squeeze the trigger when the clay and bead picture looks right. Thinking about it another way I have an eye dominance cross if it was just about point my gun into the right part of the sky and not bother about a fuzzy patch over my left eye, I was missing by miles when I shot with out that! Got to stop thinking my brain is starting to get hot :biggrin:

 
Well, maybe it is ok for a dedicated trap target, it's not my area. Certainly with sporting the mass of different sight pictures mean that you could never use this method.

Whatever works for you I guess..

Didn't mean that to sound blunt.. :)

 
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getting back to shooting left,i had the same problem when i patterned my gun and this was down to canting it,something thats not caused any problems till i started to dabble with the dark art of trap.Luckily salopian was at hand and he sent me off to doveridge for a ajustable but plate and now it shoots straight,but he made me move up to the plate and not rifle it.   

 
i moved the gun slowly to the centre and fired,this gives a more acurate point of impact  as a mount and move is what we do normally and when we are shooting like a rifle shooter we probably make adjustments to a mount we would never do normally.

At least thats what i think but sloppy would know better than me,i just did what he said and it worked.

 
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