Sporting Barrels on Miroku

[Davy_B]

Hi guys . i was wondering , i have a Miroku MK38 Trap . seeing as miroku do a sporting version of the MK38 could i just order a set of sporting barrels and put them on my MK38 Trap ? would they fit ?. 

 

[schmokinn]

Unlikely,with all but a few exceptions the final fit would need to be checked/adjusted by a gunsmith.

 

[Salopian]

A Sporting Miroku is basically a Teague choked gun .

Having you Trap gun Teagued could be possibly cheaper than buying new barrels .

Very rarely will Miroku barrels be interchangable. 

 

[Paul120]

For a Miroku Buying a whole gun would probably be less expensive.

 A replacement stock only can be 3/4 the price of a new gun. So it's anyones guess how much barrels would be. 

 

[Davy_B]

thanks guys . guess that wont be as easy as i was hoping . thing is i mainly shoot trap , but was thinking of doing more sporting . the MK38 trap is a great gun but its fixed 3/4 and full chokes make it very hard to hit sporting targets .  

I live in ireland and already have 3 guns , (Rimfire / centrefire and MK38 Trap so for me to get any more than 3 guns i have to get a restricted licence which means extra home security etc that i dont want to have to do . i was hoping for an easy solution . 

would teagueing it make the barrels the same as the sporter ? any idea of cost involved ?

Thanks

 

[FreeShot]

the MK38 trap is a great gun but its fixed 3/4 and full chokes make it very hard to hit sporting targets .

Davy there is nothing wrong with your gun - just accept that sporting targets are somewhat harder to hit than trap ones since they need quite some more of your knowledge, techique, timing...things that gun doesn't bring

Further more - once you will learn the ropes you will find that usually the close ones (where open chokes should serve you better) aren't the ones you should vorry about - it is the long ones that are worth all the help you can get and your gun might just be te ticket.

 

[Davy_B]

Davy there is nothing wrong with your gun - just accept that sporting targets are somewhat harder to hit than trap ones since they need quite some more of your knowledge, techique, timing...things that gun doesn't bring

Further more - once you will learn the ropes you will find that usually the close ones (where open chokes should serve you better) aren't the ones you should vorry about - it is the long ones that are worth all the help you can get and your gun might just be te ticket.

I know what your saying but it is the gun thats the problem . i have used others guns many times and the difference is massive , much easier .i find the long ones are easy with the trap gun but the close ones are the problem . you need to be bang on and when you do hit them they are vaporised haha but hitting them is much harder .

 

[MJJ]

Most of it is in the head. My son has just started shooting 'again' (sporting) and he uses one of my Browning GTi's 32" trap gun - he wouldn't know what choke is, or what type of cartridges he uses (plastic or fibre) or what shot size is, just gets on and shoots. So far so good.

 

[P1Fanatic]

If you are missing the close ones then chokes are not going to be some magical cure. Often picking up a new gun can seem like the difference but unless youn use it for a decent length of time then its likely just a mental thing.

 

[Davy_B]

Its not that i cant hit any of them its that it is more difficult than it could be to do it with a more open gun.  i have patterened the gun at the range and the difference in spread between my trap gun and a sporter with open chokes is massive .  If im bang on with the trap gun 100% of the time of course i will still break them but being bang on 100% is next to impossible . There is a reason people dont use trap guns for sporting . And even if it was all in my head .as you know yourself shooting is 99% in the head haha    

Rough example below . If im using full choke on my trap gun on a target 15-20 yrds away theres a big difference going to open choke

 

[balltrap]

Its not that i cant hit any of them its that it is more difficult than it could be to do it with a more open gun.  i have patterened the gun at the range and the difference in spread between my trap gun and a sporter with open chokes is massive .  If im bang on with the trap gun 100% of the time of course i will still break them but being bang on 100% is next to impossible . There is a reason people dont use trap guns for sporting . And even if it was all in my head .as you know yourself shooting is 99% in the head haha    




 

You can be bang on the target with an open choke gun and it will not break, personally, I prefer a tighter pattern nothing worse than a hole in your pattern.

 

[chippy]

Its not that i cant hit any of them its that it is more difficult than it could be to do it with a more open gun.  i have patterened the gun at the range and the difference in spread between my trap gun and a sporter with open chokes is massive .  If im bang on with the trap gun 100% of the time of course i will still break them but being bang on 100% is next to impossible . There is a reason people dont use trap guns for sporting . And even if it was all in my head .as you know yourself shooting is 99% in the head haha    

Rough example below . If im using full choke on my trap gun on a target 15-20 yrds away theres a big difference going to open choke

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Iam a very bad shot but by using the absolute minimum choke I can hit around 80% 

 

[balltrap]

That was edited after I posted nobody mentioned 15 - 20 yards :lol:

 

[chesterse]

Quite a few shots who uses a trap gun with tight chokes for Sporting use a cartridge which gives more spread like fibre wad 9s or one of the new Hull pro piston or Fiocchi F3 bior which only have half a plastic wad and are designed for short range work.

If the clay is very close then it doesn't matter what you use as the pattern does not have chance to open up anyway.

 

[Davy_B]

Quite a few shots who uses a trap gun with tight chokes for Sporting use a cartridge which gives more spread like fibre wad 9s or one of the new Hull pro piston or Fiocchi F3 bior which only have half a plastic wad and are designed for short range work.

If the clay is very close then it doesn't matter what you use as the pattern does not have chance to open up anyway.

Good idea actually i must try this i was using 7.5

Might get some 8.5 or 9 for the close ones . Might help.

Im still hitting >80% but im coming from mainly shooting balltrap and dtl where i average >96% constantly so 80% is wrecking my head . .

Is there a difference in the spread between plastic and fibre wad?

 

[balltrap]

Good idea actually i must try this i was using 7.5

Might get some 8.5 or 9 for the close ones . Might help.

Im still hitting >80% but im coming from mainly shooting balltrap and dtl where i average >96% constantly so 80% is wrecking my head . .

Is there a difference in the spread between plastic and fibre wad?




 

Are you in the CPSA Davy ?

 

[Davy_B]

Are you in the CPSA Davy ?

Hey balltrap no afraid not. Im not from the uk 

 

[balltrap]

Hey balltrap no afraid not. Im not from the uk 

Guess your just lucky then ( none UK ) :lol:

 

[TVFSteven]

Good idea actually i must try this i was using 7.5Might get some 8.5 or 9 for the close ones . Might help.

Im still hitting >80% but im coming from mainly shooting balltrap and dtl where i average >96% constantly so 80% is wrecking my head . .

Is there a difference in the spread between plastic and fibre wad?

80%??? Don't know what you're worried about! Plenty of people will be looking to go with tighter chokes at this stage to get better patterns on the rangier stuff.

Just practice more on close targets, be more precise. That's basically the difference you're seeing with wider chokes, you're not being as consistent on your shot.

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