stock length!!!

[Ian Lawrence]

I do hope Ed S sorts him out (and I'm sure he will).   :smile:

He's clearly in a bit of a quandry with what he thinks he might need. Looking at the picture it is fairly obvious, but seeing him shoot would be conclusive.

Although, so I'm told, if you move your left hand up or down the fore-end it will solve all your problems??  :wink:    Best of luck with that.

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

I had a look at Shaun's gun today, it is only mm's longer than mine which at 14-3/4" is itself longer than many if not most, whether it is the cause of many misses is hard to say but experimenting with a few spacers is definitely worthwhile. He could simply fit a thicker pad if the longer length proves useful.

Thanks for the heads up today Hamid have some good material to make a spacer at work, John Dangar felt the stock was low compared to his trap version, i have felt for a while it needed just a tad more height for me so will experiment this week. shot well today dropping only 6 with the two valley stands remaining only to drop another 8 in a moment of madness!!! A good 94 turned into a poor 86.  

 

[Jonah_116]

It is my usual stance i would guess but very rarely do you see two shooters with the same style, being 6'2" tall i consider a stock length of just over 14 1/2  shorter then usual so always difficult to judge from a photograph. I do like a sticker if only to cover all the scratches and dents the stock is actually wrapped in electrical tape covering a home made raised comb made from cardboard. 

I'm six two, my stock is 14 and 3/4 inch but like it has been said so many varying factors.

we as shooters invest So much time and money into our sport it's important to get gunfit right, the cost of a second opinion is far cheaper than thousands of  clays and carts shot with doubt.

 

[Salopian]

It really is amazing how stock length varies , shooter to shooter .

It is really a relatively simple matter to find the correct length to suit each and every individual.

Mount the gun in your usual stance/manner , wearing the clothes you usually shoot in (skeet jacket usually for clays , heavy waterproof usually for Game)

.From the base of the trigger hand thumb to the nose should be in the region of 1" to 2" .

It is very usual for people who shoot well to prefer the shorter (smaller) dimension, in fact some shoot well with the thumb practically touching the nose , as long as this distance does not cause pain or discomfort in recoil it may well be ideal . In fact many Americans promote this short stock idea.

I personally prefer about one fingers width between nose and thumb.

Remember it can be altered a tremendous amount dependant on how you stand facing your target.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

It seems that historically the whole long LOP is sorta Euro-centric.  I could be wrong about that.  Like I mentioned before I'm now shooting stocks that are about 1/2" shorter than I was using a little over a year ago and am just way happy with that.

Mr. Salopian's last sentence has embedded also the truth that if you haven't settled on a consistent gun mount that you are happy with body-contact-wise, you are wasting your time chopping the stock.  Of course that doesn't ignore the fact that if the stock is grossly short or long you're never gonna find that happy mount.  Adjusto stocks, ugly as they are, most def serve a purpose even for the experienced shooter that already "knows" what fits best.  I mean, it took a long time for me to come to terms with the fact that I actually did know better what felt best to me than what I was being told.  But, well, WTF, ya gotta start somewhere, right?

just sayin' ................

 

[Salopian]

Wonko ,

            100% Correct , we have to start somewhere and it is far better to have some idea of where to start.

There are gunshops who sell guns, with never a care for their customer, there are also fine gunshops who specialise in customer care, rare to find but good when you do find them.

You mentioned a very good point " it took a long time for me to come to terms with the fact that I actually did know better what felt best to me than what I was being told" if you shoulder a gun in the shop and it instantly feels good , spend a little time repeatedly mounting it to the shoulder and checking eye / rib relationship, beware the salesman who then tries to move you onto the 'de-luxe' model  or the similar slightly more expensive model , unless it is of course within your budget and actually feels better to mount.

 

[Clanchief]

Wait until visiting a coach and see what he says without telling him your doubts,  then suggest you feel things are a little short.

If you lengthen the stock this will drop the comb  from the position you have regarded till now as being comfortable, take this measurement of comb drop and keep it safe, you may be a while changing things until you get your thoughts in the right place, from what I remember the Browning version of your gun has a longer stock as standard, try one on the rack in the shop for comparison.

Chiefy