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I used to get a 'flinch' when I shot trap, well not so much a flinch, more of a twitch really, it went with checking my palms for hairs ! As for the 'R' on the stock, I would be looking more at the RRRRRRRRRse............................behind the stock.

 
I thought, you guys might find this interesting... I don't know how things are in UK but here, in the States, these release triggers are quite popular because American trap is a slow game (as Derek explains) so there is enough time during the shot for brain to interfere and force the shooter to flinch. I have been shooting American trap for a couple of years and I did too develop this dreaded flinch. Now that I switch to sporting clays, I stopped flinching altogether. For what it's worth...
I understand that there is a lot of time to shoot the ATA targets. However it has always baffled me as to why anyone actually needs to take the time! It must remove the instinct and automatic reflex from the shot. Even back in my DTL days I was taught to shoot it quickly and not to ride the target. Perhaps by shooting more on reflex or instinct, it could reduce the possibility if developing a flinch? Just a thought!

 
:fie:  What I was saying was that Nicola and the do gooders said that release triggers were important to some disabled shooters and shooters with injuries!  Thats why I posted the above.

 
I understand that there is a lot of time to shoot the ATA targets. However it has always baffled me as to why anyone actually needs to take the time! It must remove the instinct and automatic reflex from the shot. Even back in my DTL days I was taught to shoot it quickly and not to ride the target. Perhaps by shooting more on reflex or instinct, it could reduce the possibility if developing a flinch? Just a thought!
I have no definitive answer as to why American trap shot timing is slow (or slower). In my trap days, I was trying to shoot as fast as I can, relying exactly on the reflexes you are describing but… there is one more aspect of American trap that might be affecting shooting speed and that is squad rhythm and timing. I have noticed that bunker shooters usually take way more time between shots so the whole game seems much slower, whereas in American trap, these intervals between shots are much shorter. Perhaps physical fatigue builds up faster and, affects vision acuity and focus in more severe and pronounced way… that is of course if focal dystonia is indeed the basis for this. The same long intervals between shots may also explain as to why sporting clays shooters do not have this problem et al, perhaps shooter’s body has enough time to recover…?

 
:fie: What I was saying was that Nicola and the do gooders said that release triggers were important to some disabled shooters and shooters with injuries! Thats why I posted the above.
Don't blame me because you are wrong. Try reading Derek's article and you may learn something.

As for do gooder.....unusual compliment...but thanks anyway

 
:fie:   I ain't wrong.   just don't want to be the one who says I told you so when someone is shot! :fie:  

 
think the reason why they take a long time to shoot the target is that they hold the gun at the approx. apogee of the target and shoot it there. It must take a while to get out there. How do you set the trigger for the second barrel with a release trigger? You don't have to pull and release do you ?

 
Has anyone apart from the OP and me......actually read Derek's article...??

All is explained.

And Guru there is no difference being shot with a release or a normal gun.

In 30 years the only time I have been shot was by a normal trigger gun and an experienced shooter.

Accidents happen...

 
think the reason why they take a long time to shoot the target is that they hold the gun at the approx. apogee of the target and shoot it there. It must take a while to get out there.
This might be another component. Although, since all American trap targets are regulated to be thrown at the same height, the game insists on minimalistic gun movement, which in turn may be cultivating this "intercept" technique.

 
:fie:  Yeah" When you are laid on the ground trying to hold your guts in remember to ask "Do you use a release trigger"?

 
The best of the ATA shooters that I've seen over the years are all WAY fast shooters.  The game does let slower shooters do that but I don't even want to go into how many there are that shoot fast.  Faster than me and I was a fairly consistent 90% bunker shooter.  And I know that is nothing to get excited about - just noted for comparison.  And I still shoot about that fast at any game.  Half fast as it were.

AFAIC the release thing here is little more than amusing with "experts" possessing little if any experience and quite obviously no knowledge.  I've used release/pull triggers for two decades and have never had a single instance of a "problem".  And I've been around that hot bed of release shooters in the ATA for longer and have never seen one had by anyone else either.  Or heard of one.

But, pontificate away.  Always good for a few laughs.

 
Guru your making this sound like some sort of "Apocalypse now" scene... "tell my mum I love her".... somebody get that **** for me.... croak! ... bag him up boys he's a gonner... toot toot toot... toot toot tooooot  ! :)

 
The best of the ATA shooters that I've seen over the years are all WAY fast shooters.  The game does let slower shooters do that but I don't even want to go into how many there are that shoot fast.  Faster than me and I was a fairly consistent 90% bunker shooter.  And I know that is nothing to get excited about - just noted for comparison.  And I still shoot about that fast at any game.  Half fast as it were.

AFAIC the release thing here is little more than amusing with "experts" possessing little if any experience and quite obviously no knowledge.  I've used release/pull triggers for two decades and have never had a single instance of a "problem".  And I've been around that hot bed of release shooters in the ATA for longer and have never seen one had by anyone else either.  Or heard of one.

But, pontificate away.  Always good for a few laughs.
+1

 
:fie:  Wonko, have you ever shot Fitasc Sporting in Andorra. standing on a pile of rocks 3000 metres above sea level with a set of double release triggers where you have to make a 180% turn between first and second shots? :fie:

 
You are absolutely correct - I've never shot double release triggers

And not to put too fine a point on it, you simply do not know WTF you're talking about

just sayin' ...............

 
:fie:  Wonko, have you ever shot Fitasc Sporting in Andorra. standing on a pile of rocks 3000 metres above sea level with a set of double release triggers where you have to make a 180% turn between first and second shots? :fie:
3000 metres you say.......... 

(Ninja mode - Naughty mind - stop it naughty girl).

 
Plenty of peaks very close to the 3000m mark but are there many shooting grounds at the top of mountains?

 

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