I might be up for that, place & date permitting. I like the charity element idea, should be a bit of good publicity for clay shooting.The Pigeon Watch North v South annual charity shoot takes the top 10 scores from each side from an entry of approx 40 guns per team and that works very well, with that system it doesn't matter if the sides are massively un-balanced in numbers and the winner is the charity. Only thing I would say that as a Northerner (feel free to make with the whippet & flat cap jokes) it hurt like hell when we lost to the shandy sipping southerners at this year's PW shoot, I don't know if we could stand being beaten by the ladies/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-surprised.gif/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-surprised.gif Finally can I put a good word in for Sporting Targets as a venue, they really did "make the effort" when they hosted this year's PW charity shoot. Mr Potter