CPSA vs BASC - insurance
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Me neither.....and Bjorn recognised it as the one type of membership that would damage eventually...because it is transient....when they have had enough of shooting....or a better deal comes along....or prefer straw balers...or just shoot one a month.............they can decide to pack it in.
Where as serious competition shooters are addicted to the sport and always come back. We need all types of membership but the demographics should be strong with competition shooters. Simples. IMHO....for what it is worth.
Perhaps I can explain my situation then. I am primarily a Game shooter and as such I joined W.A.G.B.I. back in the 1960's. I was then in my early twenties and I could foresee, what was going to be a long shooting career and so I paid 3 annual £50 payments, to become a Life Member. In the early seventies I changed careers to one which had a Clay Shooting opportunity. I went along to one of their practice shoots with my side by side and stuffed them all. Not that I was good, they were bad. As part of my club membership, I was a member of the C.P.S.A. By mid 2000, I was looking to retire and became involved with running a shooting ground. As this was C.P.S.A. affiliated and I had by now qualified as an Instructor, I decided to let my C.P.S.A. membership lapse. I was doing very little clay shooting, but still game shooting. With running a shooting ground I found no time for clay shooting, along with shooting lessons and general maintenance, it left very little spare time. A few years ago, the C.P.S.A., in their wisdom, decided that all Safety Officer qualifications would only last for a 5 year period and then you would be required to re qualify. My qualification was instantly out of date (along with a great many others). I contacted the C.P.S.A. only to be told that I could not re qualify as I was no longer a member. Because I needed to be up to date with the qualification, in case the wheel should come off at the shooting ground at any time, I was forced to rejoin the C.P.S.A. . The Clubman membership level suited my purpose, bearing in mind that I was already paying as an affiliated Club and I was NOT doing any clayshooting as an individual. Having paid my £30.00 for membership, I was then able to pay a further £45 to obtain the paperwork to requalify. Believe it or not, I received both the question and ANSWER papers in the post and suprise suprise I passed. A month after this, the re qualifying scheme was scrapped, after an awful lot of £45's were collected. I have remained a Clubman member in case any more hair brained schemes are devolved. I do NOT shoot comps any longer, I do not intend to return to comp shooting, I receive my insurance cover from B.A.S.C. which does include clay shooting, should I wish to shoot a registered comp., I can do that at my nominated ground. My 4 shooting companions, all in their seventies, are also Clubman members solely for the Insurance (and the carp magazine !). Are you going to deny them the right to be members at a rate that suits both their needs and their pockets ? I feel certain that their £40's are equally appreciated by the C.P.S.A.
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Nope no one is denied anything
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I would venture that over 90% of all shooters would be considered as hobbyists. The remaining 10% if that, making a profession of it.
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Sadly no one makes a profession out of shooting but yes you are right.....and that is the point I am making....we need to build a stronger quantity of competition shooters or the sport will not survive.
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Ooh yes...club discounts....I like that. In fact I have just joined Bisley Gun Club. Not been a club member for donkeys years....last time was in the North at Holmfirth (sadly now gone).
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Which opens the whole debate about how? Football, golf, darts, snooker are all known and understood by almost everybody, so there is a head-start when somebody is looking for a new hobby / passion. The concept of taking one of these up is easily imagined and we all know people who already participate in one of these activities.
But shooting? I happily spend time trying to convert friends to the joys of clay shooting, but with so many of them they just don't have a clue what it's about and need dragging along to see, which is a stumbling point for many. I have a list of interested mates and colleagues who keep "meaning to have a try".
But shooting? I happily spend time trying to convert friends to the joys of clay shooting, but with so many of them they just don't have a clue what it's about and need dragging along to see, which is a stumbling point for many. I have a list of interested mates and colleagues who keep "meaning to have a try".
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Ooooops in case I read it wrong in the post above.
If you mean discount membership to clubman members...then the answer is still the same. no one is denied anything...clubman is still a valid membership of Cpsa.
Sadly with membership of any sort the secret is in keeping the members you get. This is one of those tasks that Cpsa find difficult. That is why the membership is nearly the same as 25 years ago....when really it should have doubled by now at least.
Hope that helps explain my post a little better.
Either way...you pay your money and you make your choice.
Perhaps my post goes some way to explaining WHY.
The only reason to be in the CPSA is to represent your County or your Country.
You can record your own scores in a notebook or on a spread sheet and work out your own averages.
You can shoot at grounds holding registered shoots so you can experience the same targets, you can shoot all of the best shoots in this Country, you can get goods at better discounts if you ask for the discount most times, you can get better insurance cover cheaper from other organisations, you can get a better magazine free every month. So frankly there is NO reason to be in the CPSA for the majority of us .
You can record your own scores in a notebook or on a spread sheet and work out your own averages.
You can shoot at grounds holding registered shoots so you can experience the same targets, you can shoot all of the best shoots in this Country, you can get goods at better discounts if you ask for the discount most times, you can get better insurance cover cheaper from other organisations, you can get a better magazine free every month. So frankly there is NO reason to be in the CPSA for the majority of us .
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Has anyone see the app that Just Cartridges has for recording scores. I was shown it at Bisley on Sunday. Looked like it was connected to Cpsa.
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Ah the pull mag. Mine came yesterday, it took 5 mins to flick through the usual drivle. Schools shoots, young peoples have a go then buying a gun on a budget usual adverts usual blah blah blah. Nothing of interest for the seasoned shooter imo.
Write ups of classic guns, historical stuff about the sport, biography of famous shooters from old days, write ups of the history of gun clubs etc etc and more reviews of major trap shoots is what i would like to see.
Write ups of classic guns, historical stuff about the sport, biography of famous shooters from old days, write ups of the history of gun clubs etc etc and more reviews of major trap shoots is what i would like to see.
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I met with prospective parents today for a place at the school I manage. At some point on the tour the father asked me if I came from the Mediterranean because of my skin tone. At this point I explained that I was tanned from being out all Sunday every Sunday shooting clay "targets" (I deliberately used that word). He was very interested in trying it out and we discussed where to go to try out. His wife thought it exciting too but was a little worried about safety as it transpired she thought we were Rambo style shooting in fields and woods and wanted to know how you could run around with a shotgun! At this point I went to great lengths to explain more about the sport and all the safety rules etc until I was sure she had a better understanding. She was American and I was talking about EJC and her team coming over and what they achieved - pleased her somewhat. It just shows you though how misunderstood it is.
Anyhow not only did I sell the school but managed to educate two more people.
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You miserable old git !!!! You got there before me!! Anyway as far as gun reviews go, I've never really seen any gun get a real hammering in a review, but sometimes I wonder if the person doing a particular review has shares in the firm that makes a particular gun. Let's face it, how much can you actually review that is truly new on something such as a Jap Browning? Most of the mechanics of the thing have not really changed much in bloody decades, it may well be OK for the newbie I guess, but for the rest of us most gun reviews are pointless, we've heard it all before.....dozens of times at least. Yes classic gun reviews and tests could prove interesting, especially if a classic gun was put up against a modern gun of the same type or spec.
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