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without the distraction of double trap would have and will have more titles. easiest looking shooter ive seen
Undoubtably! Digweed took Double Trap Seriously for a bit and when he finally dropped it, he seemed to get even more consistent at Sporting if that's possible!
 
Undoubtably! Digweed took Double Trap Seriously for a bit and when he finally dropped it, he seemed to get even more consistent at Sporting if that's possible!
Trap improves your sporting......they are only just starting to understand the mental game in sporting......we trappies have had it for ages

L. O. L.

That .......hedge monkeys .........is our gift to you.....!! (Kiss kiss).

 
I think maintained lead is nasty and difficult, in the traditional sense of start in front and remain in front. The main issue with it is that you dont automatically pick up the line. Not a beginners thing IMO.

It is good on fast birds that are not long in view. I swing through or pull away mainly, but often lately I will pull away and then maintain the gap. Wouldn't call this maintained lead in the traditional sense though..
Wiil, when I saw you at Wylye the other month. You were shooting maintained lead but you were unaware of it. Your style brings you from behind the target quickly, but you are definately tracking the target in front with a gap. You probably are really comfortable with it and it doesn't seem like maintained to you. When we spoke later, you stated that you had overlead a few and missed in front. We all do it. See you soon mate.
 
Next year both Tanya and I will be concentrating 100% on Sporting, Fitasc and Compact, really looking forward to it.

Ps, the 198 is correct ;-))

 
Sorry, but I will be beating you at them all. :/ :p

 
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Sorry, but I will be beating you at them all. :/ <img src='http://www.shootclayforum.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://www.shootclayforum.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' :p ' />' />
Like the Confidence, all you have to do is hit one more than him....or her.

 
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Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf
I think a prime example for Richard’s picture if I may call it that, is seen by most of us when shooting fast loppers or battues whether we see this picture in our minds eye or not. Since I identified not really focusing on the clay and only the space between my peripheral view points of the clay and gun I’ve started hitting these types of targets with more consistency which has an added bonus of dusting (sometimes) less complicated targets. The only down side to this sort of shooting in my mind is I can tend to over lead or chip the front of the clay which I’ve been told isn’t as bad as missing from behind. The terminology Steve Nutbeam has used with me on this sort of technique is move, mount, shoot.

 
I think a prime example for Richard’s picture if I may call it that, is seen by most of us when shooting fast loppers or battues whether we see this picture in our minds eye or not. Since I identified not really focusing on the clay and only the space between my peripheral view points of the clay and gun I’ve started hitting these types of targets with more consistency which has an added bonus of dusting (sometimes) less complicated targets. The only down side to this sort of shooting in my mind is I can tend to over lead or chip the front of the clay which I’ve been told isn’t as bad as missing from behind. The terminology Steve Nutbeam has used with me on this sort of technique is move, mount, shoot.
Yes, when I thought about it, and thought about shooting with my friend that used to do it, I realise that I do it sometimes, just not consciously. I think the example of loopers is good because nobody really swings through the line of this target(although I have seen it) you tend to swing across under the arc and shoot at where the target is about to be. Whether I look at this zone in space I'm not now sure, but I'm going to find out!
 
Yes, when I thought about it, and thought about shooting with my friend that used to do it, I realise that I do it sometimes, just not consciously. I think the example of loopers is good because nobody really swings through the line of this target(although I have seen it) you tend to swing across under the arc and shoot at where the target is about to be. Whether I look at this zone in space I'm not now sure, but I'm going to find out!
Yes that’s right I’m sure, we look/shoot at it more like a crossing clay than lopping

 
Jake,

The method that you have just described for Loopers / Chondelles is known as 'Straight Line Intercept'.

Do we need to have 194 posts to explain that now?

As I have said many times, there are four basic methods of shooting to break a crossing target and then there are variations on those styles. I think we need to be aware of the different methods. Shooting methods are a bit like having a bag of spanners, you pull out the appropriate one as and when needed to bring success.

There is no doubt that Richards style is efficient, look for the lead.

 
Jake,The method that you have just described for Loopers / Chondelles is known as 'Straight Line Intercept'.Do we need to have 194 posts to explain that now?As I have said many times, there are four basic methods of shooting to break a crossing target and then there are variations on those styles. I think we need to be aware of the different methods. Shooting methods are a bit like having a bag of spanners, you pull out the appropriate one as and when needed to bring success.There is no doubt that Richards style is efficient, look for the lead.
Well no Salopian we don't need 194 posts on straight line intercept, I was just talking to Andy about it because he brought it up and I enjoy discussing these things. I didn't know that's what it was called so I'm still learning. You could always use the Ignore button.
 
Jake,The method that you have just described for Loopers / Chondelles is known as 'Straight Line Intercept'.Do we need to have 194 posts to explain that now?As I have said many times, there are four basic methods of shooting to break a crossing target and then there are variations on those styles. I think we need to be aware of the different methods. Shooting methods are a bit like having a bag of spanners, you pull out the appropriate one as and when needed to bring success.There is no doubt that Richards style is efficient, look for the lead.
Hey Salop...the tool kit..........that's my line.....!!

:) :)

Jake ....in my humble opinion....'that' is the only way to shoot a crossing bat.

 
Agreed Nicola, but I did see a beginner, who is now my wife, swing the gun in a big arc after the target, funny to watch and she did hit a few, but obviously it's horribly inconsistent and I corrected her style over time. What I was interested in was where we look.

 
I wish I had read this yesterday.  Got my first  :)  on a sporting card in a long while yesterday.

Report pair, looper from left to right probably about 35 yards, then a high left to right Bat, similar distance.  Didn't even get close.  

Knowing the correct lead was probably most of it, but I tried tracking the arc and also intercept (boxing out)...was not happy.

Really need to get these cracked, if I am going to move up.

 
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