Maintained Lead.

[jake.keeling]

Well if its good enough for fauldsy then I'm going to have to give it a go. Who knows it might even gain me a clay here and there.

Good luck but remember he has been mastering his technique for a long time!

 

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Jake....and others.....there is no such method as 'half lead pull away'........just saying.

Maybe ....for the non-believers......it is all about not knowing what maintained lead method is..... L. O. L.

There sure have been some descriptions of it on here..... L. O. L.

So now we have done this all to death.....we will all go off and continue shooting exactly as we did before......using what is needed to kill the target in question.

Now for some thing completely different......has everyone seen the Yardley Bull-Fighting (well calf fighting) video on Facebook yesterday. Hilarious. .......and as he is an honoured member on here Matt, do you think you could paaaaaawwwwwllllllllllllllllllll it from there and post on here......I am sure he would like to come and explain the hand on hip and the English take on the El Cordobes style...!

Laugh.......I nearly tripped over the daaaaaaaaaaawwwwg!!

 

[Fauldsy]

Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

 

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Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

LIKE (run out of likes again.!!.......MAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT)

Makes perfect sense to me as well.

 

[paulos]

Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

This makes perfect sense. My faith in "The Elite" has been restored. Normality resumes.

 

[Hamster]

Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

I love this bit in particular, won't put the stare the target to death crowd to bed but at least proves to myself I'm not crazy.

 

[jake.keeling]

Jake, thanks...
When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

Yes! Although you are only the second person I've personally come across who looks away from the target, the other guy is a friend of mine who was the most gifted natural shot on the Island. As you know, it is drilled into most shooters to stare at the target and the rib or bead is at the peripheral lead.

 

[Emmsy]

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs,

Rf

im glad im not the only one who does this, according to any magazine ive always thought i was doing it wrong maybe this is why i struggle to do this swing through lark

do you find that your gun slows down when taking the shot? i notice on some stuff i shoot the gun goes to the gap and im almost stopped when i pull the trigger.....

 

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im glad im not the only one who does this, according to any magazine ive always thought i was doing it wrong maybe this is why i struggle to do this swing through lark

do you find that your gun slows down when taking the shot? i notice on some stuff i shoot the gun goes to the gap and im almost stopped when i pull the trigger.....

LIKE (run out of likes)......

BUT...........

I am now hiding under the desk....with my dark glasses on and my fingers in my ears...........because.......

I feel a lesson in 'spot shooting' coming on by someone out there.....who has read the book..... but probably never spot shot a target in their life...........

 

[jake.keeling]

LIKE (run out of likes)......

BUT...........

I am now hiding under the desk....with my dark glasses on and my fingers in my ears...........because.......

I feel a lesson in 'spot shooting' coming on by someone out there.....who has read the book..... but probably never spot shot a target in their life...........

Oh your going to just love Double Trap Nicola, role on next year.It is interesting this though, because what goes along with the stare at the target thing is that the gun should swing on well past the kill, because we all know you can't stop the gun, don't we........don't we.....wink

 

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Hahaha

Spot shooter extraordinaire here Jake.... Haha

That is how we shoot Helice......though no doubt someone will tell me that is not the way to do it.

Hahaha

 

[Les53]

Yes! Although you are only the second person I've personally come across who looks away from the target, the other guy is a friend of mine who was the most gifted natural shot on the Island. As you know, it is drilled into most shooters to stare at the target and the rib or bead is at the peripheral lead.

Jake I'm not a sporting shooter, I only shoot OT, I was always told to NEVER look at anything that you don't want to shoot at, that included the gun or any part of it. Maybe I see the bead or muzzles subconsciously, but I am not aware of seeing anything other than the target. If I do glimpse any part of the gun at all, it means I will miss, or have already missed the target. I did try a bit of sporting years ago, as well as some skeet and I never looked at anything other than the target then either. At the end of the day one just has to do what works best for one.

 

[clayclouter]

you shoot helice maintained lead surely |???? :???:

 

[jake.keeling]

Jake I'm not a sporting shooter, I only shoot OT, I was always told to NEVER look at anything that you don't want to shoot at, that included the gun or any part of it. Maybe I see the bead or muzzles subconsciously, but I am not aware of seeing anything other than the target. If I do glimpse any part of the gun at all, it means I will miss, or have already missed the target. I did try a bit of sporting years ago, as well as some skeet and I never looked at anything other than the target then either. At the end of the day one just has to do what works best for one.

I think you are agreeing that most shooters look at the target, and yes not the gun, but Richard isn't really looking at either!

 

[Docterduck]

Jake, thanks...

When I see the target, I instantly look with my eyes straight to the visual lead that I believe the target needs, if your hand/eye coordinator is half up to scratch then the gun will follow your eyes. I only ever really see the gun and target in my peripheral vision. This is also another reason that I remove the bead from the rib.

Make sense??

Rf

I have heard tales of one of the top guns here in the states for many years whom I'm sure you know has taken out his pocket knife a time or two to make quick work on those barrel do dads with his students guns.

What is interesting when someone asks to see one of my guns, target or field, seems the first thing they say..."There aren't any sights on this gun"?

 

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you shoot helice maintained lead surely |???? :???:

Hahahaha......I might if I knew where the hell they were coming from or what direction they might go.....hahaha

 

[Les53]

I think you are agreeing that most shooters look at the target, and yes not the gun, but Richard isn't really looking at either!

Yes that's right.

 

[jake.keeling]

I have heard tales of one of the top guns here in the states for many years whom I'm sure you know has taken out his pocket knife a time or two to make quick work on those barrel do dads with his students guns.

What is interesting when someone asks to see one of my guns, target or field, seems the first thing they say..."There aren't any sights on this gun"?

Do you shoot maintained? Do you shoot like Fauldsy? Reason I ask is that I have tried no bead and struggled but then at the time my technique was look at the bird and I could see the gap to the bead which which was clear in peripheral. I don't use much of a bead(it's hollow) on Double Trap but then I'm not staring at the target in that.

 

[Emmsy]

no bead here, i look to where i want the shot to go

 

[Docterduck]

More often than not maintained. On a close BIG spring quartering bird I need to take early/tight window (first 1/3 or beginning of second) I mount on it's back and move and pass through to in front.

Beads can become and are a distraction on any given target. Your eyes are to be beyond the gun with the target EYERY time. (yes shooters like Richard look at the lead as do others...(Kruger comes to mind)however their eyes are out there...not at the muzzle(that's where the do-dads are).