phessie shooting etiquette
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Its essential that you wear camo clothing - preferably the full set including face veil. An auto is acceptable as long as you show it to other members on the shooting line before the first drive. They will be impressed with your good manners and excellent taste. Shoot everything that flies, everything. Nothing must pass. If you get the red mist even better. At the end of each drive you must tell everyone the number of birds you have shot in a very loud voice. As the day progresses you could also assume the role of commentator during the drives shouting 'blind bugger' or such like comments to your neighbours as they miss the towering birds you have already had five shots at with your plastic pig. Ensure that you keep your wellies on during lunch in the shoot lodge and eat as much as you can with your fingers commenting that kentucky fried dog tastes much better to all who will listen. Tell very crude jokes about your sister during lunch, belch and fart loudly at any given opportunity. At the end of the day take your brace of birds from the keeper and tell him that you could do a much better job, dont give him a tip.
After this day you should hold these memories close to your heart because you most certainly will not be invited again and if you try to buy a day you will discover that there are no vacancies.
All because you wouldn't take your dads AYA No3.
After this day you should hold these memories close to your heart because you most certainly will not be invited again and if you try to buy a day you will discover that there are no vacancies.
All because you wouldn't take your dads AYA No3.
ChrisPackham
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ChrisPackham
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Wonko the Sane
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I believe the traditional approach was to kill as many as possible in some short time. IIRC, Lord Ripon had guns in sets of three, used three loaders, and practiced evenings to achieve that end. You might want to consider that path.
The pheasant has to be on the wing(running or standing birds are not fair game) For safety sake it has to be well above human head height and preferably have nothing but blue sky around it. Take the shot as the bird comes towards you as shooting them in the rear is just not cricket old boy. Dont shoot any bird thats heading toward your neighbouring gun. Last but not least do not shoot any FLUFFY RABBITS.
Oh and ignore the above post from Wonko the Sane.
Oh and ignore the above post from Wonko the Sane.
Jonny English
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Sir Joseph Nickerson, author of a shooting man's creed, have a trio of over/ under Purdeys with no mid rib (Krieghoff style) made to suit him. He only shot 2 at once though with one loader, the third would be in the range rover as a back up gun in the event of a break down. Sir Joseph and 3 others did hold the record for amount of partridge shot in a single day at Rothwell, Lincs. 4 pegs double gunning and shot over 2000 partridge in one day. Quite a feat, but not really something to be that proud of.
Done today it would be regarded as a despicable feat which of course it was since it was achieved
by driving the birds from one end to the other and back all day long. What charmers.
Jonny English
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Yes apparently they drove the partridge back and forth from the same cover strips across a valley all day until they could hardly fly by the end of the day. The estate still produces 1000 bird days there now, we were working next to one of the drives a couple of years back and the picker upper was on a second consecutive day for the team, over 900 head each day! This sort of shooting you struggle to justify really.Done today it would be regarded as a despicable feat which of course it was since it was achieved
Wonko the Sane
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And some people, shooters even, still shed tears over those inhumane flyer shoots!
go figure
go figure
ChrisPackham
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These big days really are the ugly face of the driven shooting world, I don't now how people justify it really. Our roving syndicate did a 350 bird day for 7 guns ( should have been 8 but one was sick) at Warter Priory last year, I didn't enjoy it and would never do another one, I preferred the smaller days. I would hate to be part of a gun line that shot 900 birds in a day, never mind back to back..
Shooting fifty birds per gun in one day per gun is OTT in my book but each to their own. I used to shoot rabbits on a farm across the road from my house but rarely shot more than four in an evening and only shot when I felt like I needed to. Not good pest control but they are a great source of delicious free protein in the diet .. but I was not really a pest controller just a sporting shot. Shooting 350 Pheasants is like pest control for £25 - £30 per pest, I am only estimating the cost because it was over five years ago I stopped shooting at my syndicate .
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FlyingTrotter
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Yep just got some more offers through today from the usual suspects of days in the West Country and when VAT is factored in the price per bird is quite scary - one of the premier operators now (1) only do big bags in peak season (2) require that you take 2 days back to back (3) include accom and the price is around £60 a bird plus all the usual costs
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I agree, completely OTT and to be honest no one really enjoyed it, but we hadn't done a day that size before so it was interesting to experience, and the cost was much more. The best day I have done was a wild bird day, 4 guns and 57 head, much more enjoyable.
You mentioned £30 per head pest control, a walked up day that we looked at buying late last season included various in the bag!! I don't really want to pay 30 for a pigeon, needless to say we didn't book!
Wow, 'requiring' back to back days!! That's pretty severe at £60 per head.
"You mentioned £30 per head pest control, a walked up day that we looked at buying late last season included various in the bag!! I don't really want to pay 30 for a pigeon, needless to say we didn't book! "
No it was not £30 a head pest control PP that was how much we estimated it cost us back then to raise a poult for shooting... we did everything ourselves so it was a cheap syndicate we usually bought in about 500 or six hundred poults and brought them on but more than 40 birds per day to twenty guns was rare... I remember on occasion not firing a shot! great day out though. It was either stand and shoot or beat for the others great fun really, much better than standing for ten minutes for two hundred birds to be flown over you JMO though.
No it was not £30 a head pest control PP that was how much we estimated it cost us back then to raise a poult for shooting... we did everything ourselves so it was a cheap syndicate we usually bought in about 500 or six hundred poults and brought them on but more than 40 birds per day to twenty guns was rare... I remember on occasion not firing a shot!
great day out though. It was either stand and shoot or beat for the others great fun really, much better than standing for ten minutes for two hundred birds to be flown over you JMO though.ChrisPackham
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What I meant was when you referred to shooting 350 birds is like pest control at 25/30 per pest, the shoot I referred to including various in the bag is pest control at 30 per pest which to my mind is taking the mick.
i agree with your sentiments about big driven days, we have a couple of 100 brace grouse days and 150 mixed days this year but nothing bigger.
if you like going shooting and not firing the gun maybe you are an ideal candidate for wildfowling (or come rabbit shooting with me...)
i agree with your sentiments about big driven days, we have a couple of 100 brace grouse days and 150 mixed days this year but nothing bigger.
if you like going shooting and not firing the gun maybe you are an ideal candidate for wildfowling (or come rabbit shooting with me...)
