Semi Autos?...Good, or Just Plain wrong?

[Salopian]

Nicola,

Please do not discriminate against people of frail stature, no need to run if they are being supervised correctly.

 Just saying,  True story.

Dive, dive, dive, Incoming. True story, just saying. :haha:

 

[ips]

Salopian, ok point taken

regards - Ian

 

[** Pending Removal **]

Not discriminating at all ....I always make my own mind up whether to run or watch ....just saying....

 

[Salopian]

Wow! The holiday has surely done you a power of good! What a nice reply.

Perhaps we are both mellowing?

 

[maddmatt]

Answer is simple, nothing wrong with any gun in the hands of someone who KNOWS what they are doing with it. Issue with auto's (from my perspective) is:

1. The ability to load 3 shots and no one round you has any idea you have a 3rd in the tube

2. Majority of shooters who use auto's don't really know how to deal with them when a problem arises

3. They eject shells in my direction when shooting sportrap/compak and that gets slightly tedious

4. They only have 1 barrel! OK just joking about the barrel...

 

[ips]

Matt

From a trap perspective i don't like cartridges ejecting at me it puts me off as i once had one hit my nice stock many many years ago.

I do agree with the comments about them being safe in the right hands though etc etc. The concept is just not my thing generally.

 

[Gene Holmes]

Answer is simple, nothing wrong with any gun in the hands of someone who KNOWS what they are doing with it. Issue with auto's (from my perspective) is:

1. The ability to load 3 shots and no one round you has any idea you have a 3rd in the tube

2. Majority of shooters who use auto's don't really know how to deal with them when a problem arises

3. They eject shells in my direction when shooting sportrap/compak and that gets slightly tedious

4. They only have 1 barrel! OK just joking about the barrel...

With you on number 2 matt

I haven't shot much. But there have been a number of times when someone (and one of these was a young lad) has had a misfire/jam other problem, and they just looked all confused and started pulling levers, and even hitting it :crazy:   and the like.

When I got my gun (an O/U) i told the guy in the gun shop it was my first gun and knew nothing about them, We then spent the next half hour or so taking it apart, putting it back together again and discussing any possible problems that may occur.

Just made me feel so much more confident the first time I went out with it.

 

[ips]

That's a good dealer you have so remember gun dealers are for life not just for xmas

 

[Gene Holmes]

That's a good dealer you have so remember gun dealers are for life not just for xmas

Only really visited two dealers since taking up shooting last year, but both were brilliant when it came to helping me out and taking time to listen to my newbie questions.

 

[maddmatt]

With you on number 2 matt

I haven't shot much. But there have been a number of times when someone (and one of these was a young lad) has had a misfire/jam other problem, and they just looked all confused and started pulling levers, and even hitting it :crazy:   and the like.

When I got my gun (an O/U) i told the guy in the gun shop it was my first gun and knew nothing about them, We then spent the next half hour or so taking it apart, putting it back together again and discussing any possible problems that may occur.

Just made me feel so much more confident the first time I went out with it.

Well done that dealer

 

[clayclouter]

Again and again, generalisations based on one or two  isolated experiences and now most auto users dont know  how to handle their guns or fix a malfunction?

point no 2 is a sweeping generalisation based on nothing but an opinion backed up by self serving confirmation form other prejudiced parties.

 You can quote examples of every type of gun user and unsafe practices, dont be so narrow minded as to blame it all semi auto users just because the consensus is anti and they are an easy target.

 

[maddmatt]

Please read the first sentence again. And I can only comment on what I have personally seen over 20 years of shooting, including my own experiences owning a semi..

 

[clayclouter]

perhaps if you took the time to do a little research you would find most semi auto users also possess o/u as well or have shot o/u in the past and are very well acquanted with safe practice, for both options

The three shot argument is another ill informed easy target rant that does not wash, I have used an auto for many years along manymany others who shoot regsitered competition on the weekends, why on earth would i need three shots (except for the Benelli comp) and i carry my gun flagged and sleeved  this is all the usual bias slanted against an easy forum target so people can pat each other on the back thank god they dont shoot a semi auto, well bully for you lot !! 

 

[FloaterSi]

For me - I can very easily see that an O/U is safe - I cannot with a semi-auto.  That makes me nervous - nothing to do with what the person holding the gun is doing.  I guess just one of my many insecurities.

 

[maddmatt]

perhaps if you took the time to do a little research you would find most semi auto users also possess o/u as well or have shot o/u in the past and are very well acquanted with safe practice, for both options

The three shot argument is another ill informed easy target rant that does not wash, I have used an auto for many years along manymany others who shoot regsitered competition on the weekends, why on earth would i need three shots (except for the Benelli comp) and i carry my gun flagged and sleeved  this is all the usual bias slanted against an easy forum target so people can pat each other on the back thank god they dont shoot a semi auto, well bully for you lot !!



calm down dear, its a forum of opinions, like arseholes we all have one. You obviously don't want to read what was written, I clearly stated that my points were all from a personal perspective and from my experience. I couldn't careless if auto users have o/u's or s/s's, I also said I wouldn't have a problem with them if they made a 2 shot version, clearly they are made for hunting, why else have 3 shots?

I still don't like empty shells pinging me and my gun when shooting but thats ok you carry on, perhaps I will start pinging mine back...

 

[clayclouter]

feel free to ping  dear its only shooting after all not as though it will change ones life.

 

[VicW]

I still don't like empty shells pinging me and my gun when shooting but thats ok you carry on, perhaps I will start pinging mine back...

Matt,you would,of course pick them up after you have 'pinged, them !!   :biggrin:

Vic.

 

[maddmatt]

Matt,you would,of course pick them up after you have 'pinged, them !!   :biggrin:

Vic.

of course Vic

 

[ips]

I still don't understand why one would choose to shoot one barrel so one choke, seems to be a disadvantage to me ?

 

[maddmatt]

Careful, that opinion might be viewed as narrow minded and ill informed... just saying