strange things are happening (re-seeing lead)

[balltrap]

Seeing a "lead" with what you are doing now is nothing more than a aspect of more time to think about slow targets

Maybe IPS is slow to think thats why he does not see lead 

 

[525kev]

I'd advise a quick visit to your local Spec savers !

 

[balltrap]

I'd advise a quick visit to your local Spec savers !

I tried to go but I could not find it :lol:

 

[Brand New]

ips knows only one lead and thats the one on the end of his dog.

 

[ips]

ips knows only one lead and thats the one on the end of his dog.

ha ?

 

[bisondan]

I've spent the last couple of years shooting, and a fair amount of cartridges in building up a memory bank of sight pictures (and I'm still adding to it) by shooting a lot of maintained lead on everything apart from a couple of target types.

I can't see how anyone can be consistent to a decent level with just gun speed and not seeing any lead at all, your timing would have to be incredibly accurate on every single shot and surely it's easier to gauge a gap that you have to give a target rather than how fast you have to swing.

Prime example was a mate who up until about this time last week shot everything swing-through then saw a coach who introduced some maintained lead leaving him baffled as to how much lead he could see shooting maintained gap compared to what he saw when coming from behind the target, pushing through, and pulling the trigger.

 

[ips]

I think its because of thirty years of trap which is in effect swing through.

re the consistency, I am talking driven not sneeky esp trick targets. Churchill seemed to do rather well with it and Yardley advocates it for driven game.

 

[EdSolomons]

The sort of birds they used to shoot in the "good old days" I suspect most wouldn't raise a gun to nowadays, hence no lead perception as 20 yard ers don't need it.

 

[Bebo]

Swing through definitely wouldn't have worked on the monster target off the tower at Sporting Targets that Ed had me shooting at this afternoon.  Shooting into thin air, totally disconnected from the clay in order to break it.

 

[EdSolomons]

Approx 18-20 foot to give those who haven't seen it (dan and Wayne on here have shot it in last week on lessons also).

gun speed = no deal there!

 

[bisondan]

Approx 18-20 foot to give those who haven't seen it (dan and Wayne on here have shot it in last week on lessons also).

gun speed = no deal there!

Massive eye opener as to how comfortably you can break a target at what most people would think is an impossible range.  

Just goes to show how good though our guns and cartridges are these days; 24g 7.5 through 1/4 choke got the best break at 90 yards? 

 

[ips]

The sort of birds they used to shoot in the "good old days" I suspect most wouldn't raise a gun to nowadays, hence no lead perception as 20 yard ers don't need it.

and yet Yardley still advocates it....go figure

 

[EdSolomons]

Watch the birds he shoots at on film and again it will make sense

 

[Darkside]

Watch the birds he shoots at on film and again it will make sense

Pheasant shooting by 20Yardley...

 

[ips]

Pheasant shooting by 20Yardley...

ha, I like that ?

 

[chippy]

There was a good 70 yard battue on the black course stand 13 at Hepworth last week I don't see how anyone could hit that without seeing lead. I saw around 25- 30 ft.

And before anyone asks. Yes I did hit it 

 

[MJJ]

There was a good 70 yard battue on the black course stand 13 at Hepworth last week I don't see how anyone could hit that without seeing lead. I saw around 25- 30 ft.

And before anyone asks. Yes I did hit it 

Its amazing how we all see lead differently (and whereabouts it was shot at). - I reckon about 10-15 feet and i took the front edge off. It was after all slightly going away as well

 

[chippy]

Its amazing how we all see lead differently (and whereabouts it was shot at). - I reckon about 10-15 feet and i took the front edge off. It was after all slightly going away as well

when we shot it, the sun reflecting on it made it very difficult to see at the top so i shot it about 10 ft from the ground.

 

[Bebo]

I don't try to put a number on lead, I have my own measuring system. Not much, middling and a lot. New measure added after yesterday - sh*tloads.  Then when told to go walk even further back, it became effing sh*tloads.

 

[bisondan]

I don't try to put a number on lead, I have my own measuring system. Not much, middling and a lot. New measure added after yesterday - sh*tloads.  Then when told to go walk even further back, it became effing sh*tloads.

How far back did you get?