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[Fuzrat]

What's shooting regular 90's got to do with having an opinion? Hornet bored me so won't go back end of. Northampton as you say was tricky and tested me and I enjoyed the hell out of it, first and foremost we do this for fun, and I will spend my money where I get most enjoyment

 

[GlenPresley]

I take every shoot as a challenge.

When I walk away with a Straight I will be happy to say it was easy.

Until then I can always do better.

Exactly my thinking!!! ....I have lost count of the times I have heard ...'well I only missed the easy ones' ....I may think it sometimes but I would also never say it you are setting yourself up for a big fall!!! ....I had a guy over here who shot really well at a big shoot in Holland recently and he was really giving it the big one for a week or two after...he just happened to pip me at that shoot by 1 or two clays but it was not even enough to come in the top 3 still. He was like a dog with two dicks on Facebook and at the next shoot. I thought to myself ok you can have a moment of glory but really you need to tone it down because you are seriously going to come crashing down with a thud been there done that keep it on the low tell of your result and thats enough be humble! Guess what happened? He shot absolutely crap at the next shoot and he got a royal spanking! It was always going to happen.....consistency is key in my book.

Glen.

 

[GlenPresley]

What's shooting regular 90's got to do with having an opinion? Hornet bored me so won't go back end of. Northampton as you say was tricky and tested me and I enjoyed the hell out of it, first and foremost we do this for fun, and I will spend my money where I get most enjoyment

True but you said Hornet was 'Skeet in the Woods' big mistake ...what you shoot again? What class you in again? Really fuzzy please you are making good progress in C Class but really how can you possibly have an opinion that it was skeet in the woods?

Fair enough it was boring and breakdowns and the ref put you off yes opinions noted and you will not go back as your hard earnt cash will be better off spent elsewhere but I very much doubt it was skeet in the woods???

And anyway how many 100 straights at Skeet have people shot?? This is just a stupid saying altogether in my book!

 

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What's shooting regular 90's got to do with having an opinion? Hornet bored me so won't go back end of. Northampton as you say was tricky and tested me and I enjoyed the hell out of it, first and foremost we do this for fun, and I will spend my money where I get most enjoyment

Fuzzy for my comment it was nothing to do with everyones enjoyment or opinions........it was to do with having an accurate assessment of a shoot layout. Everyone can have an opinion and I will read or listen as always with a smile. However in my opinion, for an accurate assessment you have to know and trust that the people giving the assessment know what they are talking about. I will listen to all but the only opinion I will take note of if I am not there is from the ones that hit em all or talk sensibly about a shoot layout.

 

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Glen....I have had plenty of 100's but not shot it for donkeys years because it is so boring to me personally........

 

[Fuzrat]

My definition of skeet is all under 25 yrds, there were perhaps 3 birds over that distance if memory serves.

 

[sscottsmith1234]

Even as a AA class i'd rather shoot a score in the 80'S and feel as if i have been challenged and lern't something rather than shooting a 94/95 and feeling as if i havn't really been trying. You can only call a target easy after you have hit all of them!

ok so lets face it you will never keep everyone happy - some shoots just fit some people and not others on the day. As long as we dont spend all day waiting for broken traps to be fixed and standing in 1/2 mile long q's most of us can have an enjoyable day.

 

[Fuzrat]

Never realised you shot so much skeet back in the day Nic, thought you were a fitasc turned die hard trappie. AA in skeet as well, truly multi faceted

 

[GlenPresley]

That's the difference 'most of us can have an enjoyable day'

I really can honestly say I don't enjoy building a score not at any point do I give a monkies of what they throw anymore. Will be interesting to see how fuzzy and the likes feel after shooting competition clays in 10 years time if he is still going.

Yes there are some targets I don't like as much as others in terms of my condfidence in breaking them but I really couldn't care less it is what it is so I have to try and shoot them.

The enjoyment for me comes in the social side before or after or during a comp if it is a two day shoot or a 4 day comp.

I am always nervous on the first few stands or targets but I hope I have learned to control it and also the last few stands if I am on for a chance of a draw or a good score.

I don't enjoy competition shooting at all to be honest maybe that sounds weird? I enjoy it when I have shot the good score or won something. I enjoy the social fluffy rabbits after the shoot or layout and to be honest I only think of the targets and what I have shot at and analyse it on the way home.

That is pretty much how it has been for me since shooting in the Team at helice and shooting more big comps. I very rarely shoot practise anymore.

I am quite capable of shooting in the top 3 over here in Belgium, Holland and Germany at their registered comps etc so for me that is my challenge, Yes the standard is a little lower in some cases but you still have to shoot 90+ to win a shoot and you have plenty of European and World Medalists in Fitasc and Compak over here and on their day they can shoot!

I enjoy spending time in a hide with my dad shooting pigeons more than anything and the father son fluffy rabbits and rivalry that goes on!! That is probably the most enjoyable thing in my shooting and nothing can match that imo. In fact any wild shooting decoying is just the best for me then i can really enjoy it and just have fun.

 

[GlenPresley]

Glen....I have had plenty of 100's but not shot it for donkeys years because it is so boring to me personally........

Never done 100 straight at Skeet although i bet I have only shot 500 reg Skeet in my life think I did a 96 or 98 somewhere there?

Done a few 100's at DTL and more 99's than I can think of.

My last score was 93 at Compak so my aim next time I go out is to try to better that. I just aim for 90 at sporting/compak everytime i go out and if I am under then it obviously depends on the toughness of the shoot and i have a look at the board. 90 at anything is bloody good in my book!

Glen.

 

[GlenPresley]

why is 'fluffy rabbits' replaced with 'Fuffy rabbits'! Bit of editing going on, on my posts! Is the admin showing a loving tender side?

 

[GlenPresley]

'B*aN*ter' = fluffy rabbits!!!!

 

[Chard]

I reckon there is quite a lot of sh*te written on this subject, from all sides.

If a shoot is "skeet in the trees" you should be scoring high 90s.

Close targets aren't necessarily easy targets, and likewise, not everybody struggles on rangey targets. Once you've grasped the concept of sticking big lead on, they're not necessarily that hard.

I know some iffey shooters, myself included, who can do OK on high and long stuff, and also know one or two AAA shots who don't do so good on these and in fact, are quick to dismiss them as "stupid" targets.

I agree, it's all about consistency, whether they're short, long, high, low, fast or slow. They've all got to be broken.

Consistency is my problem, and I'm the first to admit, I can't seem to crack that one <_<

 

[radrac]

I reckon there is quite a lot of sh*te written on this subject, from all sides.

If a shoot is "skeet in the trees" you should be scoring high 90s.

Close targets aren't necessarily easy targets, and likewise, not everybody struggles on rangey targets. Once you've grasped the concept of sticking big lead on, they're not necessarily that hard.

I know some iffey shooters, myself included, who can do OK on high and long stuff, and also know one or two AAA shots who don't do so good on these and in fact, are quick to dismiss them as "stupid" targets.

I agree, it's all about consistency, whether they're short, long, high, low, fast or slow. They've all got to be broken.

Consistency is my problem, and I'm the first to admit, I can't seem to crack that one <_<

Agree 100%! :smile:

 

[GlenPresley]

Agree mainly from people who don't have a foooking clue!

 

[timps]

I compare the shoot to how I know I shoot, if I score a 91 and 2nd in my class is 6 clays behind it’s not a soft shoot, I shot well.

If I scored 88 and not in the money then I would surmise it’s an easy shoot as I have shot a nice score for me but have been beaten by a few others so my score is probably inflated, however, I was still not good enough to win.

If someone in C and a few in B class shoot 88 ish and I shoot an 80 I don’t say it’s a soft shoot I say they kicked my butt well shot.

Winning a class or shoot is hard whether it’s a soft or hard shoot, if you beat me, you beat me, it matters not.

If you shoot 90 at one ground & I shoot 80 at another it has no relevance in my eyes, it does not prove who is the better shot & if it’s a soft or hard shoot, but if it’s at the same ground at the same time then I take my hat off to you.

I just go to as many grounds around the country as I can because shooting the same ground (hard or soft) each week and you will get used to it and I do like a challenge, I even enjoy shooting a soft ground now and again.

If I wanted to shoot the same toughness of targets each week I would shoot skeet, not that I am saying skeet is easy (anyone who has seen me shoot it will testify to that) just the same everywhere.

So to the original post a P.B. 79 and leading C class well done, if it’s good enough to lead you shot well.

 

[radrac]

I compare the shoot to how I know I shoot, if I score a 91 and 2nd in my class is 6 clays behind it’s not a soft shoot, I shot well.

If I scored 88 and not in the money then I would surmise it’s an easy shoot as I have shot a nice score for me but have been beaten by a few others so my score is probably inflated, however, I was still not good enough to win.

If someone in C and a few in B class shoot 88 ish and I shoot an 80 I don’t say it’s a soft shoot I say they kicked my butt well shot.

Winning a class or shoot is hard whether it’s a soft or hard shoot, if you beat me, you beat me, it matters not.

If you shoot 90 at one ground & I shoot 80 at another it has no relevance in my eyes, it does not prove who is the better shot & if it’s a soft or hard shoot, but if it’s at the same ground at the same time then I take my hat off to you.

I just go to as many grounds around the country as I can because shooting the same ground (hard or soft) each week and you will get used to it and I do like a challenge, I even enjoy shooting a soft ground now and again.

If I wanted to shoot the same toughness of targets each week I would shoot skeet, not that I am saying skeet is easy (anyone who has seen me shoot it will testify to that) just the same everywhere.

So to the original post a P.B. 79 and leading C class well done, if it’s good enough to lead you shot well.

For what it's worth...totally agree too! :smile:

 

[Chipper]

If we did away with the class system, and all shot comp only. this would stop all the talk of soft shoots and sandbagging as your average would mean nothing on the day. It would allow a payout down to 12th place and it should give you more incentive to improve. And for people who say its not fair, do you think its fair that a AA class shot can shoot 90 and come 4th yet receive nothing, but a C class shot can shoot 75 and get £150.

Well said Chris that would in all honestly sort the whole mess out

 

[ExSCA]

Well said Chris that would in all honestly sort the whole mess out

It would definitely sort something out - you'd have no B or C class shooters participating at all. Perm 12 from any 25 people to win most shoots. Economic Suicide.

 

[GlenPresley]

It would definitely sort something out - you'd have no B or C class shooters participating at all. Perm 12 from any 25 people to win most shoots. Economic Suicide.

The fact is the lower class shooters make up the numbers.

However, I would abolish Birds Only as this is a complete waste of time anybody who shoots birds only should not be at a registered event as it is a 'Competition'

They should go shoot practise instead of getting in the way!

Glen.