How much do you pay for 100ESP comp?
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EdSolomons
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trap= 4 traps, 4 refs, little set up costs (no hg prize? not sure on this).
Sporting= minimum 20 traps (often 28), 10refs (or 14) + relief, three days to set targets. Seems ok value when you lay it out!
Sporting= minimum 20 traps (often 28), 10refs (or 14) + relief, three days to set targets. Seems ok value when you lay it out!
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Lock Stock & Barrel
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Worsley charge £31 birds only and £36 for comps - and yesterday's comp had 115 entries, so that would appear to indicate that the shooters who shot the course were happy at these prices.
£45 seems steep for only 10 stands.
£45 seems steep for only 10 stands.
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Hi Tom,
Yes we do have levies on some shoots. General registered shoots do not have a levy applied unless they are a County Championship and then the levy from all the shooters present is split between the counties that are holding their championship. Some counties share the venue you see.
Then we have a regional levy on any Regional Championships and thay plus inter-counties goes to the regions involved.
Then we have a CPSA levy which is on any English Opens across the disciplines and English selection shoots....and this goes to HQ.
Then there is a levy on all the BICTSF GBR selection shoots which goes to the BICTSF supposedly ring fenced for the discipline concerned.
And now this year there is an annual levy of £50 for any ground that holds a FITASC event....even a registered shoot. This goes to the BICTSF to help fund their organistion.
So yes we are 'levied up' here in England as well.
(p.s. The counties / grounds can decide on the levies and they range from £2 up wards).
There you go... :smile:
Shaun Hopkins
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West Kent works out £35 for 100 practice and thats doing your own buttons and no ref obviously plus you have to dispute no birds or just cough up when your done depending on how many you may of had usually anything above 3 and your banged to rights. doubt many shoots are getting rich but could not help but notice even the tea lady had a rolex on. :crazy:
DoubleBarrelledDon
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I guess regional pricing must have an effect on shoot costs in the same way everything else does. Go and buy a litre of diesel in the middle of Manchester and then go and buy one in Surrey and I can be pretty sure there is quite a difference. House prices, food, price of a pint etc etc...they all vary depending on where you live and what the local economy will stand.......
Well I shot Worsley yesterday (badly), enjoyed the shoot but was not happy paying £36.
Have posted before on one forum or another that the benchmark in the NW is Catton Hall, 14 stands (so no card wrecking 5 pairs), £125 HG and paying 3 places in the lettered classes, all for the princely sum of £30 comp or £25 for those misguided birds only shooters.
Even if the £4 to the SCTA is true, £41 comp or £37 B/O for 10 stands is highway robbery. Trouble is the greedy ground owners know they have us saps over a barrel, with fuel costs at £1.45/l for diesel we can't get very far for the £6 or so pounds difference between entry fees,
In order to shoot registered shoots every Sunday I am traveling on average between 60 & 70 miles each way. If a ground virtually on my doorstep charges a few pounds more I'd be foolish to ignore it as overall I'll be better off. Doesn't mean I'm happy about paying over the odds!!
My first thought was I'd never in a thousand years pay £45 for an ordinary registered shoot but if the alternative is a 200 mile round trip to pay £30/£32/£34/£36, well the rational man does the maths and stumps up the £45, wouldn't be able to smile whilst I did it though.
Mr Potter
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Mid Norfolk £34 comp or £29 BO,
No idea about payouts as I've never even won an argument but I've heard they are pretty good.
No idea about payouts as I've never even won an argument but I've heard they are pretty good.
Last time i shot at West Kent they charged me " RANGE FEES" as well as the normal cost i think it was £3.00 (only shot a round of skeet )don't know if this is still the case
FieldandClay
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It will also depend if you buy you diesel at Asda or BP maybe you get what you pay for !!!!
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Why not have a change and visit Blackpool?
Decent targets, some tricky ones, plenty of target varity, you don't need laser vision to see them either. They will even supply scorecards and a pencil.
No arguing about chips off clays etc; if you're that way inclined, no hassle at all.
A really good mornings shoot, cost £24 for 100.
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Well...beleive me there is very little differance, if any at all in the cost of diesel from Manchester to Surrey (or Suffolk !!!) so the point that it cheaper ooopp north is a myth, i know as i lived there for nearly a year & when i revisited Essex some times fuel was cheaper.
The differance with Catton Hall is they own the land, so are not goverend by rent increases/charges......hence the cheaper price as far as i am aware !!!
teepee1234
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Some people stump up thousands of pounds on guns, then whine about 3 or 4 quid to shoot them. Jesus, take up tiddlywinks.
PhilS
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I've tried, but I can't get the tiddleys to go high enough to shoot at............... :spiteful:
Lock Stock & Barrel
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To be fair Andy, Catton Hall is not just a clay ground - it's effectively an activity centre - with quad biking, archery, paint balling, falconry centre, to name but a few of the activities they do on top of clay shooting. I suspect this allows them to subsidise the clay side of their business.
Added to that, this discussion is essentially one about 'perceived value', so it's an entirely subjective topic - meaning you're never gonna get all the people to agree on any one price: your 'expensive' or 'over the odds' to someone else might be perfectly acceptable and inexpensive. Even the £45 in the opening post, to some, might be considered value for money; although not having shot the ground and paid £45 for the privilege, I can't say. And as you say, there are other influencing factors: distance to travel, fuel costs, etc. And some grounds are so remote that they are not on the national power grid and have to run off generators (so another cost in fuel for the ground to power their site). So-called, 'straw bale' sites will always look inexpensive when compared to the prices you pay to shoot Hodnet and other sites - but then again, you don't get half the amenities (or the associated costs of running the place) that you do at these higher-end grounds.
And whilst I do like Catton Hall (certainly got some challenging birds and varied terrain), in the twice I've been there to shoot, 3 months apart, the birds had not been changed. And the second time we had to skip three stands (although we came back later when they were free) whilst instructors put families or stag parties through their paces - something you don't get at Worsley as, as you know, they have a roped-off area specifically for 'Have-a-Go' days, stag dos and learners. Mind you, that's more of a mere inconvenience than a gripe, and we will be back at Catton in the not too distant.
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RobertBeard
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Unfortunately there is nothing new in this. In target shooting people spend thousands on rifles, gadgets, shooting clothing, ammo, scopes etc and moan like b****** about entry fees to competitions.
I have just circulated details of a 60 shot match to be held on Easter Monday with an extra fun target with 10 shots to be fired in 90 seconds at 50 metres called the rapid rabbit. Entry fee is £16 pounds. If anyone scores a maximum 100 in the timed shoot they win £500! Its a big challenge but if you don't come out and try you cannot possibly win.
Target shooters are notoriously mean with their money other than on their own gear! Looks like its similar with clay shooting!
Its not a cheap sport and you have to decide on your level of participation according to what you can afford not only in money terms but in time which is a more valuable commodity.
Guerini Guy
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I am currently paying £36 for registered 100ESP at Barrow Heath. Seems about right to me. Usually approx 130/140 entries. Nice ground and excellent targets even if usually a bit tough for my current skill level. But hey, its all about the challenge right?
If I can't hit 'em and others can, what is the answer . . . . . . . . . . yup you got it, I've just got to learn to shoot better, and you don't do that by constantly blitzing easy layouts.
I have shot Auchterhouse a couple of times in the Scottish National Skeet Championship (this year it is back at Morton). I really like both grounds but we are even charged £45 for 100 reg Skeet !!!!
Its just something we accept for a great weekend away, and we are up there again this year (seventh year in a row) but wouldn't be happy paying that sort of money every week.
If I can't hit 'em and others can, what is the answer . . . . . . . . . . yup you got it, I've just got to learn to shoot better, and you don't do that by constantly blitzing easy layouts.
I have shot Auchterhouse a couple of times in the Scottish National Skeet Championship (this year it is back at Morton). I really like both grounds but we are even charged £45 for 100 reg Skeet !!!!
Its just something we accept for a great weekend away, and we are up there again this year (seventh year in a row) but wouldn't be happy paying that sort of money every week.
Richard59
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£45.00 for 100 ESP is a bit steep.
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