Market research question

[Macc Ladd]

It just goes to show that some of you don't read too well or listen at all. I never said A or B class should win more than HG.

I said that if a class pays in the majority of the prize fund, that class should share it out more evenly.

Maybe this is why 23000 of you didn't vote, because it would have used up too many brain cells .

dont blow a gasket, it's not life or death!! Just a hobby

 

[Santa2512]

I have had a long crap day and I come on here for a bit of light relief....some people need to be a bit nicer to each other....it would be boring if we were all the same and I like a bit of debate but really there is just no need to be so RUDE......

I am obviously in a worse mood than I thought so I am going to lie down in a darkened room....

Welcome to my world ,   all i get is letters, letter, letters,   I want. I want, I want,

:santaclaus:

 

[Jaykaysea]

Welcome to my world ,   all i get is letters, letter, letters,   I want. I want, I want,

:santaclaus:

Santa you do make me smile....you are my favourite....and not just because it is nearly Christmas xx

 

[Santa2512]

Santa you do make me smile....you are my favourite....and not just because it is nearly Christmas xx

I cant find a blush smiley xx

 

[Karen Mason]

Steve I think ladies class at reduced rate would encourage more ladies with small prize fund if you win . But you would make your choice on entry ladies cheaper rate smaller pot or full entry to go in class with bigger rewards upto each individual what they go for same for colts and juniors, if you want class prize money you have to pay the same as everyone to get it

 

[EdSolomons]

HG doesnt come from any classes it's sponsored by the shoot so wash the sand out your fannies!

 

[Wonko the Sane]

I think a stumbling block for the majority is the actual distribution of the competition surcharge.

As has been said many entrants realise that they will win nothing and will opt to shoot the targets at a cheaper cost.

Now, If the prize fund is only going to be won by maybe ten expert shots classified in AA the vast majority in B & A class will be disillusioned as they are actually swelling the pot and have no chance , or very little of a return.

By the same token if the A or B class only prize fund was vast then the AA shot who had honed their skills would be disadvantaged.

Why should a High Gun from AA have £200 prize and his mate have £100 for winning A class? Because they are good, but it is hardly fair when the B class have provided the majority of prize cash but the winner can only win £100 maximum. 

Maybe if a formula could be used where the classes that provide the higher percentage of the pot could be paid back in more places that may be an incentive to enter competition.

If you want to do that then just go to the Lewis Classes and all is solved.  Automatic classes and payouts - nothing could be simpler

Shoot regular classes for averages/trophies and Lewis for all the money

 

[ehb102]

If you want to do that then just go to the Lewis Classes and all is solved.  Automatic classes and payouts - nothing could be simpler

Shoot regular classes for averages/trophies and Lewis for all the money

I like the Lewis system! Pet Easton uses it at Think Pink. I didn't win anything, but was delighted to have made it out of C class. 

 

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HG doesnt come from any classes it's sponsored by the shoot so wash the sand out your fannies!

Ooooooh...if I wanted to..... I could not have got away with saying wash the sand out of the edge of your dick.....!

How do you get away with it Ed....??

 

[Darkside]

I'd rather play the lotto than the Lewis system!!! I don't see what so wrong with the prize system we use just now...there's an inbuilt opt out if you don't want to play!?!? I laugh every time I see someone go B/O then moan that "...the one time I go B/O I win my class and get nothing!!!"

Too many 'touchy' people about...

 

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Is there a problem arising about women on here? The is nothing wrong with ladies classes....they have them in all international competitions.

The only people I have ever heard moaning about payouts are men.

So what has prompted all the sudo vagina talk .........where is that coming from?

Don't compare moaning men ....to women......if you don't mind.

 

[Hawkeye]

someone want to explain the Lewis system ?

 

[ehb102]

Ooooooh...if I wanted to..... I could not have got away with saying wash the sand out of the edge of your dick.....!

How do you get away with it Ed....??

Probably because awareness of how toxic the use of feminisation is as an insult is not yet great enough for the majority of people to object. 

Is there a problem arising about women on here? The is nothing wrong with ladies classes....they have them in all international competitions.

The only people I have ever heard moaning about payouts are men.

So what has prompted all the sudo vagina talk .........where is that coming from?

Don't compare moaning men ....to women......if you don't mind.

Stopping using the state of being female as an insult would be nice. 

someone want to explain the Lewis system ?

Cut off at different points. Rather than a pre-set class, you either count the number of scores, so the first 25 are A class, the next 25 are B class, the remaining few are C class, or you set score cut offs, so 40 might be the cut off for C class, 70 for B class, everyone else A class. You can set scoring according to the spread of results. Depends on what you're scoring and how many people entered. The point is that instead of being the best of a pre-set clump you can award prizes by achievement on the day. It's just different, but very encouraging if there are lots of people scoring at the low end. 

 

[Hawkeye]

Thanks Liz

 

[ExSCA]

Right - keep the language clean please. Have hidden posts.

I've not been online much this week as I have been handling a bereavement in my team at work, and I'm travelling to Belgium this afternoon for a funeral tomorrow. 

Please play nice while I'm gone. 

 

[shootinguru]

The only time that I have shot the "Lewis" system is at the Dutch G,Prix in Holland, as far as I am concerned its fine because they have a  large amount of prizes! some are cash some are sponsered.

The best thing is that you cannot fiddle your scores to win! its been tried there by a few Brits but it never came off!

I have seen it in the U.S. where its popular but it will never take over from class payouts! reved:   

 

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Probably because awareness of how toxic the use of feminisation is as an insult is not yet great enough for the majority of people to object. 

Stopping using the state of being female as an insult would be nice. 

I quite agree 

 

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The only time that I have shot the "Lewis" system is at the Dutch G,Prix in Holland, as far as I am concerned its fine because they have a  large amount of prizes! some are cash some are sponsered.

The best thing is that you cannot fiddle your scores to win! its been tried there by a few Brits but it never came off!

I have seen it in the U.S. where its popular but it will never take over from class payouts! reved:   

Yes Dourhaut Mees is a great example of it working well........boy we had some great times there before it went steel. I remember bringing a whole lot of minging coffee mugs back for you for Wylye one time.....when the Hustler was in short trousers and playing with fire hoses and Biddy's car... :laugh: those were the days :laugh:

I cannot believe i just said that....! 

 

[Santa2512]

I'd rather play the lotto than the Lewis system!!! I don't see what so wrong with the prize system we use just now...there's an inbuilt opt out if you don't want to play!?!? I laugh every time I see someone go B/O then moan that "...the one time I go B/O I win my class and get nothing!!!"

Too many 'touchy' people about...

I  only have the option to go B/O    so for me its immaterial

Mart

 

[shootinguru]

Nicola, do you know that its 20 years ago (1993) that we went to Biddenhouzen for the first time?   I think that its a better shoot now since Frank Hazenkamp started setting the targets!    Can you remember who put Barry Who's boots in the pond because they stank so much?

Excellant food, and drink (after shooting finished of course) super company and super prizes!

I've been back for the last 3 years on steel (I hate steel) but its worth it for the shoot! NO interference from FITASC officials as its not FITASC reg.,

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