poorly 692

[ips]

Agree in part but gmk are the warranty supplier the dealer will buy the product with full warranty. Sometimes we buy products with no warranty and we take on the warranty ourselves so assuming the dealer buys with this in place the warranty agreement is with gmk.

 

[Rosso]

GMK rebuilt my DT10.

Also extended my warranty from 3 to 10 years b

It still kept breaking.

Shot that gun really well. It was just going wrong all the time.

Could not rely on it.

Got rid.

 

[HDAV]

Agree in part but gmk are the warranty supplier the dealer will buy the product with full warranty. Sometimes we buy products with no warranty and we take on the warranty ourselves so assuming the dealer buys with this in place the warranty agreement is with gmk.

that may be your interpretation legally under SoG it is the retailer who is liable not the manufacturer distributor the manufacturer/distributor can provide the retailer with repair replacement product but the buyers contract is with the seller and the seller alone.

If you are a dealer/retailer you really need to know your liability under SoG.... The "warranty"  does not resolve the retailer of SoG....

http://sogahub.tradingstandards.gov.uk/

HAve a gohttp://sogahub.tradingstandards.gov.uk/quizlist/quiz1 

 

[ips]

HDAV

interesting thank you.

 

[HDAV]

Scary isnt it especially the 6 year bit........

 

[bostonmick]

I wonder how many have been successful with the six year thing.I would be almost certain that there is a lot more to it what with sub section this and paragraph that.for one thing if the manufacturer recommend a service every year and this has not been done and a record kept which is 99% of shooters that may void your claim.things are rarely simple.

 

[HDAV]

Bostonmick you may find this useful]http://www.which.co.uk/news/2013/10/success-for-which-members-using-sale-goods-act-338879/

 

[bostonmick]

I have read through the link you kindly supplied.however I am not convinced that it would work I suppose it depends on how much time and effort you wish to use and not forgetting cash along the way.if you have had an item for say three years a gun maybe and it develops a fault how on earth are you to prove it came with it when you first purchased it.the retailer also has the right to choose if it is repaired or exchanged and usually the cheapest in the case of say a beretta with a ten year warranty I think we can all guess what he is going to do with it.i think if it were me I would just throw it in part ex and carry on shooting itwould probably work out cheaper in the end.court costs and solicitors are not cheap

 

[HDAV]

I have read through the link you kindly supplied.however I am not convinced that it would work I suppose it depends on how much time and effort you wish to use and not forgetting cash along the way.if you have had an item for say three years a gun maybe and it develops a fault how on earth are you to prove it came with it when you first purchased it.the retailer also has the right to choose if it is repaired or exchanged and usually the cheapest in the case of say a beretta with a ten year warranty I think we can all guess what he is going to do with it.i think if it were me I would just throw it in part ex and carry on shooting itwould probably work out cheaper in the end.court costs and solicitors are not cheap

And that is your choice, considering the 6 year term and the ambiguity, you may need to go to court but solicitors expert witnesses etc do cost, however it is naff all to do with beretta or GMK it is the retailer you would be taking to court no one else thats our legal system.

How long should a shotgun last? is one that is beyond economic after 3 years ok? One that needs £500 of work to rectify faults present at manufacture is that ok? 

 

[Salopian]

I think we are worrying too much .

Sell it and get a Miroku.

 

[jwpzx9r]

I had a narrow escape regarding the 692 was going to buy one of the early guns but in France the cheapest I could buy one for was €4500! which at the time was about £3750 I think anyway a company in the UK was doing one for £3150 but then there was going to be importation comps so I bought a Browning XTR for €3500 the same price I would pay in the UK. I still have the Browning but have never used it since I bought a proper gun!

 

[HDAV]

What's a proper gun?

 

[jwpzx9r]

What's a proper gun?

Sorry I thought you would have noticed my avatar... Proper competition shotgun Perazzi MX8 even though its twenty plus years old! They are a dream gun for anybody willing to open their mind and serious about shooting trap!

Speaking as someone who has made the mistake I would say to any trap shooter contemplating spending ~ £2.5 - £3.5k of their hard earned on a new shogun... STOP! Think about it carefully and go out and buy a well sought out good second hand Perazzi shotgun for about the same cost ...or less.

 

[garry2749]

My Dt10 and A400 have been hammered no problems at all. Not like the Browning Maxius i brought 

new,with in 200 rounds all the plating inside the receiver fell off. I clean em every time out and being a 

mechanic they have to be buried in oil and grease no problems.

Have to say there not built like the MX8 ive just brought though, bit of a different league i think.

Thats had years of Trap shooting and the pins and sears show no wear at all incredible made of Krytonite

i reckon.  :music:

 

[Dog Tyred]

Thats had years of Trap shooting and the pins and sears show no wear at all incredible made of Krytonite

i reckon.  :music:

Think you'll find they are made of unobtainium

DT

 

[ips]

Antimony that's what you need.

 

[westley]

Aunty who ???

 

[jwpzx9r]

Gary there is no problem with the quality of the Browning it is a very nice gun for the money I paid, the timber is actually very nice.... but my second hand Perazzi actually cost less and it is a better gun! Don't get me wrong though the Perazzi  probably only cost what I paid for it when it was new twenty four years ago and I don't doubt I have bought a very lightly used and well looked after gun. I have however seen many other guns of the same age and they are nearly all just about as good so I think they are made to last a long time. The one I bought had not been used for over ten years which may be why it is near mint condition.

I actually had my Browning down at the shooting ground on Wednesday and was going to shoot it but put it back in the car...a piece of four by two comes to mind one of the others thought it was great though... he shoots a B25 super trap.

 

[HDAV]

Sorry I thought you would have noticed my avatar... Proper competition shotgun Perazzi MX8 even though its twenty plus years old! They are a dream gun for anybody willing to open their mind and serious about shooting trap!

Speaking as someone who has made the mistake I would say to any trap shooter contemplating spending ~ £2.5 - £3.5k of their hard earned on a new shogun... STOP! Think about it carefully and go out and buy a well sought out good second hand Perazzi shotgun for about the same cost ...or less.

 £2.5k?  :fie:

My trap gun cost a lot less than that and legend has it has accounted for more straights than any other (of course its the gun that makes all the difference).... but obviously not a proper gun.....

 

[jwpzx9r]

Your particular gun or just the Miroku gun in general? .... what ever number of straights it has done though I think you will find that a Perazzi of some description has accounted for the more important straights in fact at the London Olympiad the accounted for 12 of the 15 available medals.. but you will never ever impress a Perazzi shooter by trying to tell them about another guns history of winning anything in shooting. If people get their jollies out of shooting cheap guns that's their option I paid my £2.5 for a twenty four year old gun ( hey that's cheap ! ) and it is worth every penny of that. I am still waiting for my first UT 25 and don't think its far away having done quite a lot 24's these past few months. I am no expert but I am on the way up and a lot of that is down to the gun I am using it gives me a great feeling of confidence and when people that I shoot with tell me I am going well I just pat that gun and smile back at them.