How much do you pay for 100ESP comp?

[Fuzrat]

Apologes wylye, I did say I suspected they were that price.  So how much cheaper than that are they then?

Potter

made me chuckle :lol:

Claysrus are doing black standards £67 per thou up to £92 per thou for orange rabbits and battues. obviously a bit cheaper if you buy a few pallets worth but not a lot.

 

[Mr Potter]

Good news, this will be definitely my last post on this thread, it's just going round in ever increasing circles and I'm frankly getting bored with it. it was never about whether I preferred Catton Hall to MCSC in fact I thought I'd compared each very favorably to one another. If anything it appears that LS&B and webber don't like to hear anything negative about MCSC. It was all about comparable costs for two very similar set-ups for registered competition shooting, one at £25 one at £31 for birds only.  You can't compare either of those two grounds with the likes of Lupton or any of the other un-registered grounds in this context because they don't offer registered competition shooting.  

Personally the criteria I use to decide where I'm going on any given Sunday are heavily weighted by two things, my perceived quality of targets and distance from home.  Very much also rans and in no particular order, are size of the tits behind the counter, size & quality of clubhouse, quality of catering and cost.  For those that think I've a downer on MCSC and an upper? on Catton, I shoot both these grounds because they are close to home, both less than 1/2 an hour and yes I slightly prefer Catton, not just for the "percieved" better value for money but I don't particularly like shooting in the middle of a wood. (not enough sky!!)  Take the traveling aspect out of the equation and I'd drive past both grounds to head for at least an hour or two South were the targets are so much better than both of them, Kegworth, Grange Farm, Garlands, Westfield, Orston to name but a few, wish they were within half an hour distant, that would be happy days. 

One last point, John (webber) didn't mean to sound disrespectful and it certainly wasn't aimed at you by referring to markers but my understanding is that the only body that can issue an official qualification as a referee for any registered clay pigeon shoot in England is the CPSA.  That's the route that Son of Potter had to take, a one day CPSA course (only open to CPSA members) followed by both a written and practical examination at a cost to the candidate of £65.  He is now a referee, anyone who has not passed this CPSA exam are scorers or markers.  Freely admit that some scorers/markers are head and shoulders above others but not qualified to call themselves refs.

Mr Potter 

 

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Apologes wylye, I did say I suspected they were that price.  So how much cheaper than that are they then?

Potter

TIN HATS......!!!!

Tin hats........Oh you have done it now...........

I will be wearing mine in bed tonight just in case the Iphone by the bed explodes. :laugh:  

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Would be a shame for you to leave Mr Potter have myself at times been misunderstood and had replies that have left me wondering! other times i have found a small minority very aggresive but i am a big boy and really never feel that bothered :hair:   would like to say i enjoy reading your contributions and hope you reconsider have a few days to mull it over and hope to see your post continue :good:

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

OOPS think i misread and thought you was leaving for good going back to sleep now!!!

 

[Darkside]

Just this thread he's leaving...

 

[Lock Stock & Barrel]

Ironically, I met Andy (Mr Potter) and Son of Potter today - we actually had a good giggle about this thread - and yes, the offer's still on for a shoot at Catton a week on Wednesday (20th) Andy

 

[webber]

Good news, this will be definitely my last post on this thread, it's just going round in ever increasing circles and I'm frankly getting bored with it. it was never about whether I preferred Catton Hall to MCSC in fact I thought I'd compared each very favorably to one another. If anything it appears that LS&B and webber don't like to hear anything negative about MCSC. It was all about comparable costs for two very similar set-ups for registered competition shooting, one at £25 one at £31 for birds only.  You can't compare either of those two grounds with the likes of Lupton or any of the other un-registered grounds in this context because they don't offer registered competition shooting.  

Personally the criteria I use to decide where I'm going on any given Sunday are heavily weighted by two things, my perceived quality of targets and distance from home.  Very much also rans and in no particular order, are size of the tits behind the counter, size & quality of clubhouse, quality of catering and cost.  For those that think I've a downer on MCSC and an upper? on Catton, I shoot both these grounds because they are close to home, both less than 1/2 an hour and yes I slightly prefer Catton, not just for the "percieved" better value for money but I don't particularly like shooting in the middle of a wood. (not enough sky!!)  Take the traveling aspect out of the equation and I'd drive past both grounds to head for at least an hour or two South were the targets are so much better than both of them, Kegworth, Grange Farm, Garlands, Westfield, Orston to name but a few, wish they were within half an hour distant, that would be happy days. 

One last point, John (webber) didn't mean to sound disrespectful and it certainly wasn't aimed at you by referring to markers but my understanding is that the only body that can issue an official qualification as a referee for any registered clay pigeon shoot in England is the CPSA.  That's the route that Son of Potter had to take, a one day CPSA course (only open to CPSA members) followed by both a written and practical examination at a cost to the candidate of £65.  He is now a referee, anyone who has not passed this CPSA exam are scorers or markers.  Freely admit that some scorers/markers are head and shoulders above others but not qualified to call themselves refs.

Mr Potter 

Mr. Potter

Yes, only the CPSA can issue a qualified referee ticket; but it would have been helpful if you had read CPSA booklet number 5 prior to making your derogatory post.

I won't spell it out, the read may be educational, 

I'm sorry Andy, but you've made a number of inaccurate assumptions throughout this thread.

I and others seriously disagree with much of what you have posted; we'll just have to agree to disagree and move on.

webber

 

[Mike]

This ^^^^^

And to illustrate the point, Worsley is [to my understanding, and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong] the only shooting ground in the CPSA's area of North West of England to hold registered comps - and when you consider the sheer number of shooting grounds in the North West of England, that's a telling indictment about reg comps. Coniston, and not necessarily in the North West, and others, binned reg comps as they couldn't make them pay and got sick and tired of reading shooting forums where all they read was whingeing from those who had shot them when they did hold them.

 Something that you might not know.

Many clay grounds in this area stopped putting registered shoots on before these shooting forums even existed, so how could they read about shooters complaints?

 

[Chard]

There's people on here that know **** all about registered shooting talking the talk like they're the worlds experts at it :getlost:

Lot of that about lately :huh:

 

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There's people on here that know **** all about registered shooting talking the talk like they're the worlds experts at it :getlost:

Lot of that about lately :huh:

Watch out :laugh: ......I can hear the 'report' buttons clicking.......... :smile:

 

[Lock Stock & Barrel]

 Something that you might not know.

Many clay grounds in this area stopped putting registered shoots on before these shooting forums even existed, so how could they read about shooters complaints?

No doubt, Mike. But now they do - and their incentive to hold registered comps (at least in the North West) is non-existent.

 

[Lock Stock & Barrel]

There's people on here that know **** all about registered shooting talking the talk like they're the worlds experts at it :getlost:

Lot of that about lately :huh:

I suspect 'twas ever thus mate. And then there's C class shooters who'll go to great lengths to illustrate how AA+ shooter are getting it wrong.

It's the Web: it can be a sea of fools.

 

[Chard]

Watch out :laugh: ......I can hear the 'report' buttons clicking.......... :smile:

Oh well..... :ike:

 

[Rhbjones]

Why is being called a marker disrespectful?

I have been doing reffing/marking for the last 5 years, 4 of which I have been cpsa qualified, it certainly wouldn't upset me if I was called a marker!

 

[Mike]

No doubt, Mike. But now they do - and their incentive to hold registered comps (at least in the North West) is non-existent.

 Two grounds who used to hold registered shoots, Kelbrook and Blackpool, did not stop running comps. because of complaints.

Why don't you contact the grounds and ask them why they stopped?

A question, if you go somewhere and receive bad service, do you say nothing or do you complain?

 

[PhilS]

A question, if you go somewhere and receive bad service, do you say nothing or do you complain?

But it's how you complain.......

Sent from my Desire HD using tapatalk 2

 

[ips]

I am not a confrontational person and never have been, therefore I prefer to complain by never going back to the ground, restaurant, hotel etc etc etc I usually use this "vote with my feet" method.

 

[Mike]

I very much agree "with it's how you complain" but at Coniston the complaints started at the ground before the internet.

If you are polite people listen more than if you rant and rave, but there are some who use that approach.

 

[Chard]

Why is being called a marker disrespectful? I have been doing reffing/marking for the last 5 years, 4 of which I have been cpsa qualified, it certainly wouldn't upset me if I was called a marker!

Effing marker....... :spiteful: